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Google Donating Bandwidth and Servers to Wikipedia

Armstr0ng writes "According to Dirson's blog, Google plans to help Wikipedia by donating bandwidth and servers to handle part of their increasing load. In fact, there's an official page of Google's proposal to host some of the content of the Wikimedia projects."

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  1. It's awesome... by domenic+v1.0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google donating bandwidth for the better of the internet community. If only more internet or tech companies would show some dedication like this into improving the education for the masses over the internet for the people. Hats off to google again.

    1. Re:It's awesome... by kryogen1x · · Score: 5, Insightful
      ...and google disagrees with some content on it (read: investors aren't happy with content), there's a possibility of censorship or removal of content?

      The content doesn't have to be hosted on Google's servers for Google to edit the content. Wikipedia articles can be edited by anyone.

    2. Re:It's awesome... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The stock market does not hold any power over Google, at least as of this point. Google's top people are still fully in control. Sure the shareholders can request a meeting and push forward an agenda, but since the majority of voting power is not on their side, they can be laughed out every time.

      This is why Google shares are not worth that much, they're only good for trading. The investors don't control Google.

    3. Re:It's awesome... by lommer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Right, but imagine 3-4 years down the line, wikipedia is getting millions of hits daily... Google is now donating 90% of wikipedia's bandwidth and servers, and suddenly they say we want blah. Wikipedia is then faced with a choice of giving in to google, or of committing effective suicide as they are DDOS'd into oblivion once the servers are removed.

    4. Re:It's awesome... by daviddennis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can you imagine the headlines on Slashdot and other media if Google tried to censor Wikipedia? It would destroy their reputation for "not being evil" utterly, and I know Google values that enormously, not only as a moral principle, but as part of their marketing.

      If you haven't noticed, their article on Google includes unfavourable information such as a mention of low salaries and a whole section on criticism of the search engine.

      Google is aware that there are plenty of outlets in which unfavourable information about their company can be aired. I really don't think they have any plans to try and suppress news about their company. I'm sure they know all too well that it would be impossible.

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  2. Just thought about this the other day... by Hooded+One · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...when I heard about Google maps. I wondered how long it would take Google to start their own wiki, then I decided they wouldn't be likely to duplicate the efforts of Wikipedia. Didn't occur to me that they might do this instead. Cool.

  3. We should all be cheerleading for Google by sisukapalli1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google is able to pull off new stuff while sticking to "do no evil" philosophy. And, what more, because of competition from Google, Yahoo has started offering better services (e.g. the Yahoo toolbar for firefox). So, good for the end user.

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  4. Bah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a bad idea. Wikipedia is so full of convoluted articles it isn't even funny. Don't get me wrong, there's some good information there, but a lot of articles have information in them that makes you go "WTF!" There is an article about where I live on there, and I noticed it is icorrect, so I edited it. Some guy, who seems to think to article is his baby changed it back. Whenever anyone changes it he changes it back, because he wrote it. According to his user page he also lives here, but he has no idea what the hell he's talking about. He also wrote and polices several other articles related to where I live, and they all present his convoluted and incorrect information. That is the problem with Wikipedia.

  5. Another jab at MSN? by sangreal66 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems like Google hasn't taken to kindly to Microsoft's recent launch of the new MSN Search. Last week they moved Google Local to the front page in an apparent effort to meet Microsoft's localization feature. This move looks to me like an attempt at meeting Microsoft's Encarta integration.

  6. Re:One idea as to why Google is doing this.... by RedWizzard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    What I am trying to ascertain is what value can Wiki give google other than advert space, which is apparently not part of the current deal?
    Here a few possibilities:
    • PR, which Google clearly values highly,
    • generally increased use of the net (i.e. it's in Google's interests to support anything that adds value to the net as a whole),
    • they might request a link be placed at the bottom (or top) of each article that does a Google search for the article's title.
  7. Re:For a small price by mt+v2.7 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It wouldn't suprise me at all.

    Google's goal has always been to collect all information possible and have it in one easy to access source.

    5 years ago people laughed at them.

    This is deinfetly one of the best ways of them to get closer to that goal.

  8. I wonder if they will help Gutenburg? by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The gutenberg project is another that is deserving of bandwidth and servers.

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  9. Value by ucblockhead · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Google's value to the customer is its ability to get good information to that customer. Anything that improves the general quality of information on the internet improves Google's value to the customer.

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  10. Re:One idea as to why Google is doing this.... by MOMOCROME · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google needs to solve the problem of people searching a term to get a rough idea of the meaning. They've got it covered for definitions, but more advanced concepts are still wanting.

    As it is, say you are interested about what happened in 1033 AD. If you search for "1033" you get a range of pages that have anything to do with 1033 AD, instead you get info abobut RFC 1033, port 1033, california legislation s.1033, and so on. If you search for "1033 AD" you likewise get a wide range of incidental and nearly useless trivia about 1033 AD, with very little in the way of comprehensive overview.

    Wikipedia has an entire page on the events of every year starting at around 900 AD, iirc. It should be the first hit for searches like that. Google is looking for a means to justify making it so, without complaint from the wikioids and without complaint from the people stressing over page rank for their site. Expect a section with an automatic overview of the wikipedia entry, similar to how they are placing image search results at the top of some searches now, or like they do with news.

    The deal here is that google wants to retain the lead spot for quick reference needs. Wikipedia serves that purpose very well, but I'd say most people don't know to check it out.

  11. Re:Someone please tell me... by rs79 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "At what point does Google turn from everybody's favorite company, to the next Microsoft?"

    When it stops being a usefull tool.

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  12. Knowledge is power by ninjamonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google seems to understand that knowledge, and the dissemination of knowledge, is power.

    If you can provide people the most efficient way of providing information important to them, people will deal with advertisements and other methods to generate revenue, as long as they are inobtrusive.

    Wikipedia is a great source for many different types of general knowledge, and while it may not be the ultimate resource for obtaining information about a certain topic, it is a great place to start to get a general overview.

    Maybe Google sees this as a great addition their search engine: when searching, a person is supplied with a brief description of the topic at hand and search results to further their research, perhaps grouped into categories. If Google can make themselves a living, breathing entity like Wikipedia has, with input from users, perhaps they can gain an edge over other search engines.

  13. Re:For a small price by Carnildo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wikipedia would also be the perfect place to demonstrate their search capability and test new search algorithms: it's got good internal linkage, contributers are well-behaved, it's very high-traffic, and it's got a large document base to work from.

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  14. Re:For a small price by cmowire · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Things that work for a semi-controlled, editied Wikipedia don't work for the rest of the 'net.

    On the other hand, maybe they could mine it for semantic information from the already partially tagged content somehow.

  15. Encarta by zyridium · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is simply a strategic move to compete with Microsoft and it's inclusion of Encarta in MSN Search...

  16. power elite by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being able to search nearly all of humanity's knowledge is extremely powerfull. Being able to help create and build the data infastructure that eventually much of the industrilised world will relay on gives each and every one of us intellectual omnipotence.

    The fact that anyone with an internet connection now can harness this much power must really disturb the politicians and CEOs who relay on our mediocre education system and centralised media to keep the masses ignorant and those with some knowledge incapable of sharing it. It's difficult to sniff ssh connections on hacked wifi Access Points. It's impossable to regulate freenet, tor, or even most conventional p2p networks. Google and wikipedia offer even more robust and democratic services, but they unfortunatly are very centralised. Google has pledged to do no evil, but I can imagine that the leaders of many hierarchical entities, from Microsoft to the NSA, would love to just watch (much less control) the content of these forces of potential social transformation and enlightnment. If google and wikipedia form a stronger alliance and people begin to use and contribute more, I suspect that the service will risk being shut down if it doesn't sell out to survalience, censorship and marketing/advertising. Google and wikipedia stand out as nonpareil examples of all thats good on the net. They can help each other out, but lets be vigilent to ensure their and our freedom.

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  17. Google wouldn't wast the money by ShatteredDream · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the content about Google is inaccurate than Google is free to post a correction, are they not? Is that not one of the big ooh, ahh features of Wikipedia? Second, consider the fact that it costs money for Google to file a lawsuit and what would be the point in agreeing to host content, hosting it, then deciding that you didn't like it and suing the creator over it? Chances are, Google would be laughed out of court.

  18. Re:For a small price by Kryxan · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I agree and would take this a step further to say google made an amazing decision here. I would never have believed that they would do something like this -- donating to a free internet resource like wikipedia. Wikipedia is one of the best general resources of useful knowledge on the net. My support goes to the people at google for making an investment which will likely lead to the proliferation of the best internet knowedge resource.

    Now I'm sure that there is no way google would make such an investment if it did not benifit them in some way. And like the above poster mentioned that could mean a testing ground for new search methods. But I get the feeling that on the surface the only difference we might see are links to google in the wikipedia, perhaps a search web bar at the top of the page that uses google. And I also feel for some reason that soon when I am searching on google that my first result could very well be wikipedia.

  19. Encarta vs Wikipedia by xmpcray · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The new MSN search offers searching through Encarta, maybe Google plans to offer searching through Wikipedia in the future?

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