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The Crawlspace Tankcam

Saint Aardvark writes "Here's a page on the fun you can have with a remote control Abrams tank and a wireless video camera. "I really wanted a way to look for under house leaks and stuff and, in the manner of a responsible home owner, get early warning so I could increase the effectiveness of... Ok, that's a lie. In reality, I wanted an excuse to put a camera on my R/C tank and drive it around scary tunnels, and this just happened to fit my purposes perfectly." Movies included!"

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  1. ThinkGeek by fembots · · Score: 5, Informative

    Like the bigger version of these Desktop R/C Mini-Rovers with optional wireless video cam?

    Here's the Coral Link since this guy put so many photos on one page, I read its hit counter at 230, we'll see how long before it's dead :)

    Movies Included = Slashdotted Soon

    1. Re:ThinkGeek by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Like the bigger version of these Desktop R/C Mini-Rovers with optional wireless video cam?

      The difference being the tank camera is mounted on the gun barrel and can be moved up and down, giving you a little more field of vision. The rotating turrent is nice as well since you can pan around without having to move the vehicle itself.

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    2. Re:ThinkGeek by whoever57 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The rotating turrent is nice as well since you can pan around without having to move the vehicle itself.

      If it works. Last October, I bought what looks to be a similar tank (different colors, but otherwise the same) from II Sports.com.

      On Christmas day we opened it to find that the turret only rotates through a few degrees. II Sports would not replace it because more than a month had passed since we bought it. One MONTH -- that's the length of their guarantee. I searched the packaging and handbook and their is no mention of a manufacturer's guarantee -- well, there is not even a mention of a guarantee.

      So, we tell my son (the recipient of said Christmas gift) to play with it anyway and within a few hours, there is a pellet stuck fast in the barrel -- it will not fire any more.

      Now, I have to wonder why there were pellets in the tank when we bought it -- had it been returned previously and shipped out again by an unethical seller?

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  2. Regular Slashdot by mboverload · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Nothing to see in these dark tunnels, move along..."

    1. Re:Regular Slashdot by shut_up_man · · Score: 4, Funny

      "You are likely to be eaten by a Grue."

  3. Laser Tag! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now all we need is laser tag gear and it's ready for front yard battles!

  4. Almost Slashdotted, Here's the article w/o pics. by killa62 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Putting a camera on my R/C tank
    Or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb

    1. The Problem
    I had to crawl around under my house recently to figure out where to run some wires, but it was dang uncomfortable. My foundation isn't a slab, at least not on the top.

    It's gravel.

    The sharp kind.

    So after throwing away my bloody shirt and healing, I put some cardboard down and crawled around some more, and it was better. ...but it was still uncomfortable. The floor was something like 18" from the 'ceiling' on my crawlspace. I had to be really careful or I'd hit my head, but it wasn't so bad because of the nice soft padding on the ceiling.My shirt, just kidding.

    After crawling around in this claustrophobic space for a while, I crawled out. Something began to slowly occur to me. It was like an itch, but I couldn't put my finger right on it. After another minute, I realized it was an actual physical itch. ...which spread. Within 5 minutes of leaving the hole, my entire body was itching, especially my exposed skin. As it turns out, the fluffy ceiling in the crawlspace was in fact fiberglass insulation. When I was a kid, my parents repeatedly told me to stay away from insulation because of the itchiness. I assumed this was just a trick to keep me from finding presents in the attic, so I ignored the advice but some how never worked up the energy to go treasure hunting. While I still think it's possible they stored presents up there, the itchiness of my old teddy bear I got for Christmas as a child makes a good deal more sense now.

    time passes

    After a few weeks, I thought back to completing my under house survey. I really wanted a way to look for under house leaks and stuff and, in the manner of a responsible home owner, get early warning so I could increase the effectiveness of... Ok, that's a lie. In reality, I wanted an excuse to put a camera on my R/C tank and drive it around scary tunnels, and this just happened to fit my purposes perfectly.

    2. Tanks for the help

    I started out with an R/C tank I bought last year. It's got a lot of articulation. The turret rotates, and the barrel goes up and down, so I figured that plus the treads would make it a good platform.

    The wireless camera I had around the house was one I had bought for another project last year off the eBay. It seems just about perfect for the job as it is super small, self contained, and seems to have good range.

    One thing I noticed during testing was that the camera had poor low-light performance despite the 6 infrared LEDs on the face, so I included a mini Mag-Lite in my plans.

    I pondered the best way to mount my booty, then decided to focus on putting the camera on the tank first.

    3. Immediate success was not forthcoming
    (eg, "stupid damn tank")

    First, I tried a clever combination of scotch tape and... more tape. The end result was a pretty skewed camera, "mounted" to the turret in the loosest sense of the word. When I drove the tank, the 'tape snowball' flopped around in all directions like a wet metaphor. I realized that the only way this would work would be with a good supply of Dramamine, so I thoughtfully stepped back and reconsidered. By 'thoughtfully' I of course mean 'fitfully', and by 'stepped back and reconsidered' I mean 'ripped the camera off the tank and immediately gave up on the whole idea'.

    4. Slightly less failure

    A few hours later, my wife asked me if I needed anything from the store. Eager at the idea of not having to actually do the shopping myself, I answered in the affirmative. She ended up getting me some painters tape, easier to work with then scotch tape, a little more resilient (which is strange, because painters tape is designed to be easier to remove so it doesn't pull up stuff), and a lot more blue. Using this, I attached the mini Mag-Lite to the barrel and taped the camera next to it. Theoretically, this should give me a platform from w

  5. Yay death and tanks by soimless · · Score: 4, Funny

    Also This sould be useful for upskirting and makeing fortunes (9.95 USD) on the interweb

  6. Holy crap, that's my site by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have good Karma, I moderate fairly. What did I do to deserve this?

    My hosting service just caught fire.

    1. Re:Holy crap, that's my site by Chairboy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yep, we're having his birthday party tomorrow. At least, that was the plan. Now, the plan is probably more like 'find a new hosting provider' after hostsave kicks me off.

    2. Re:Holy crap, that's my site by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 2, Informative

      And after you put the fires out?

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    3. Re:Holy crap, that's my site by Chairboy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Cake and ice cream!

    4. Re:Holy crap, that's my site by LighthouseJ · · Score: 3, Funny

      Remind me never to host a web page for anything I create. I guess success of my perpetual motion machine will have to be passed by word of mouth...

    5. Re:Holy crap, that's my site by stienman · · Score: 3, Funny

      My hosting service just caught fire.

      It's probably just their printer: lp0 reported invalid error status (on fire, eh?)

      Tell them that they don't need to tail > lp0 the server log.

      -Adam

    6. Re:Holy crap, that's my site by Infinityis · · Score: 2, Funny

      I dunno, but I'm glad you put a hit counter on the webpage. It allowed me to demonstrate the slashdot effect to my wife within under a minute.

    7. Re:Holy crap, that's my site by flyingsquid · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't even want to think about what is going to happen when they hear about my Linux-powered Natalie Portman robot.

    8. Re:Holy crap, that's my site by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Funny
      I guess success of my perpetual motion machine will have to be passed by word of mouth...

      It's okay--just make a really short video and loop it. You'll save a ton on bandwidth, and nobody here will know the difference. :D

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  7. Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  8. Time to hit the showers, boys by Gunsmithy · · Score: 2, Funny

    All I know is, when I write Porky's IV, it'll have this device in it.

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  9. Look! by writermike · · Score: 2, Informative

    From TFA:

    After a minute of trying, I realized I would have to go down myself and unstick it. I climbed down the hole and looked down to see that it was about 10 feet away, apparently jammed up on a rock.

    I dropped to my stomach and began to crawl towards it, pushing as much cardboard ahead of me first to minimize my time in the pain zone. I crawled ahead and made it to the tank, then pulled it free of the rock.


    Ummm... I appreciate the geekiness and all, but couldn't you have just looked around at this point! ;-)

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  10. Slashdot effect by FiReaNGeL · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The page include a 6 digit counter at the bottom of the page. As we speak, its increasing by about 100 hits every 10 seconds... poor guy :)

    1. Re:Slashdot effect by Spacejock · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's only 50 people watching, it's just that they're all hitting reload over and over to watch the counter climb. Amazingly, it does...

      The slow response is due to another 50 slashdotters trying to leach the entire site so they can post 'It's slashdotted already, but here's a cache'.

  11. Destructive power? by mboverload · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just tell me when they get a fricken argon laser beam on it.

  12. Look at his shirt by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It looks like he was almost eaten by a grue.

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  13. Rover! by Claire-plus-plus · · Score: 3, Funny

    Got stuck on a rock? Maybe it has the same syndrome that the Mars rover had ;)

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  14. Actually ... by GrabtharsHammer · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... the best part of both vids is the soundtrack. That kid sounds so cute! esp the "My pizzaaa!" bit.

  15. Thank god... by astebbin · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..that this guy is married and not in attendance at any middle school/high school/place with changing rooms, heh.

  16. Interesting idea.. by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why not drag a power/control cable behind it? The battery wouldn't be a limitation and if it gets stuck, give the cable a light tug. Also, you would lose a lot of weight from the battery. You could upgrade the motor to the gun turret allowing a greater range than "down" and "slightly less down"

    I read a story about exploring small tunnels in the pyramids using things like this (not toys, but the same idea) and the people doing it were finding lots of neet stuff.

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    1. Re:Interesting idea.. by Chairboy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I thought about doing that, and probably will in a future version for exactly the reasons you mention.

      If not a control cable, at least I could do a thin gauge metal cable for the tugging part.

    2. Re:Interesting idea.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You mean like these guys? ASR

  17. done way before this guy! by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 4, Interesting
    A friend of mine did this years ago, used the tank for pulling cable in a network room.

    http://blizzard.rwic.und.edu/~nordlie/robotics/mar k6.html

    1. Re:done way before this guy! by strelitsa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Same here. I ran CAT5 to every room under my house using an R/C truck with 2 lines of dental floss tied to it (one as a sending line for the cable length, the other as a safety line). I had straight lines of sight to every target location, so I didn't need to mount a camera. It beats crawling under there yourself and disturbing nests of yellowjackets, brown recluse spiders, fire ants, etc. as you go.

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  18. Weapons load by Marran+Gray · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obviously, now that we have recon covered we need to think about adding offensive capabilities. I mean, what good is it to identify all the major structural supports if you have no way to take them out? Robot Wars-esque saw blades are probably unsuited for implementation on the existing hardware base, even if external power could be supplied (viz. those "anemic motors"), so I'm thinking along the lines of a small thermal lance or incendiary package.

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  19. Re:Almost Slashdotted, Here's the article w/o pics by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 4, Funny
    Kirk: "I'm just lucky that thing had knees"

    "Those were not his knees, captain. Not everyone keep their genitals in the same place"

  20. Not a bad deal !! Cold pizza and warm coke !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From the website:

    2/11/05 - Just got posted to http://slashdot.org/ - Holy crap. I'm paying like $7 a month for hosting via http://www.hostsave.com/ and I'm hoping this plug will help me avoid getting a huge bandwidth bill. If you start up with them, feel free to tell 'em where you heard about them from! Please, I have children to raise! We have a pizza restaurant in Springfield, OR. 15% off any orders at Figaro's Pizza if you say you saw it on slashdot.

  21. I for one... by Infinityis · · Score: 3, Funny

    welcome my new tank-driving, mini Mag-Lite toting, camera carrying overlords.

  22. A page? by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
    > "Here's a page on the fun you can have with a remote control Abrams tank and a wireless video camera.

    I kinda stopped reading at "remote control Abrams tank". That's just plain fun, with or without the wirless video camera. I don't need no webpage to tell me that.

    I mean, come on. As if driving a remote control M-1 Abrams blind isn't "fun" enough in the first place.

    (Although I admit - probably more fun if you have a remote control video camera, rather than having to be anywhere near the tank in order to get footage of all the car-smashing, lightpole-snapping... well, like Mom said, it's all fun until someone gets their house crushed like a bug.)

  23. Re:Let the. by eobanb · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyone else think for a second that it was a remote control ACTUAL Abrams?

    Now that'd be a hack.

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  24. Home Alone 3! by Mr.+Cancelled · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ever since seeing Home Alone 3, I've thought that something like this would be a lot of fun (it never occured to me that it'd have practical applications also).

    What would be even neater is if you could interface a computer with the remote and camera feed. You could, theoretically at least, take pictures of it's path through the house, and then write a small program to steer the vehicle around a pre-determined path, based on where in the cameras vision known objects are.

    From there it wouldn't be too big of a chore to have the program notify you, or react differently, when unknown objects come into view, or if it gets into unknown territory. Just think, your own sub $100 roving security system!

    Oh! And as for Home Alone 3... While it's by far not a great movie, it's actually pretty good, and is by far the best of the series (Yeah, I know that doesn't say much for it still...)

  25. Next Improvement? by earthforce_1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wire the camera up to a DSP running image stabilization and enhancement software. An perhaps a PWM for the motor, (similar to those used to creep electric trains) so that he can drive at variable speed.

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  26. Re:Let the. by SEWilco · · Score: 5, Funny
    Anyone else think for a second that it was a remote control ACTUAL Abrams?

    Iraqi /. readers are impressed with the huge size of our houses.

  27. Lets be honest by auburnate · · Score: 2, Funny

    No reason to skirt around the issue, the videos from the tank I watched were very poor quality. I understand they were wireless, but why not stash some treasure in the crawlspace to let all the /.ers take part in the discovery. I mean if through all the darkness and quick jerky motion, the tank could have discovered this, how flipping sweet would that have been?!

  28. Infrared by null+etc. · · Score: 5, Insightful
    One thing I noticed during testing was that the camera had poor low-light performance despite the 6 infrared LEDs on the face, so I included a mini Mag-Lite in my plans.

    I have the same camera. The 6 infrared LEDs on that camera are inoperative. They only work on the black & white camera model, which shares the exact same housing. The circuitry required for infrared to augment an RGB display is much more complex than the circuitry required to augment a monochromatic display, and thus couldn't fit within the housing.

    1. Re:Infrared by canavan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Infrared is still visible with color video cameras. If you have a videocamera or a webcam, point an infrared remote control at it, an you'll see the IR LEDs blink. Does anyone remember the scandal two or three years ago about the sony video camera that had some filter that let mostly infrared through (?), which was abused to look through peoples swimsuits?

  29. Re:Gotta get something smaller by flyingsquid · · Score: 3, Funny
    and the camera movement would be more like Doom

    But there's no tape on Mars to attach the camera to the gun barrel!