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Miguel de Icaza Talks About Mono

Posted by Hemos on from the it's-a-necessary-element dept.

Matthew Revell writes "Miguel de Icaza defends Mono and talks about its future relationship with the Gnome desktop, in the latest LugRadio. The leader of the open source implementation of .NET says no one is forced to use Mono but he hopes it will make life easier for open source developers. "

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  1. Patent issues? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    he hopes it will make life easier for open source developers.

    I thought the problem was that Microsoft told everybody that they didn't have any patents on C# or .NET, but they are actually a licensee of somebody else who has patents on it? Miguel dodged the question on this one by simply stating that it was a reimplementation rather than licensing .NET from Microsoft.

    Listening to the audio, the things on the horizon are Windows Forms and incremental improvements (tuning). People are porting applications today, usually you can just copy the binary, but ignorant Windows developers do things like screw up path separators, assume case-insensitive systems, etc.

  2. Re:Is he really a big cheese by Trigun · · Score: 5, Informative

    Miguel is the lead developer for gnome, and his pet project was creating a .NET framework for linux. It has since grown to be more than a pet, gaining the backing of Novell. It is not the easiest thing to get running on your system, but by far not the hardest.

    It needs to be defended for a number of reasons. Linux zealotry (why would people move from Windows if all the software is cross platform?), laguage zealots (IMHO, C# is a nice language to program in, but the java guys scream bloody hell) and people afraid of MS putting the legal smack down on Linux over API issues,just to name a few.

    Personally, I think that Miguel's reliance on WINE is a mistake, but we have discussed this here, and it does have immediate benefits for the windows.forms and directX stuff. I know people who are programming frontends on both Windows and Linux, using a combination of the GTK interface and Windows.forms, and they love it.

  3. Re:Is he really a big cheese by wizbit · · Score: 5, Informative

    WINE support was abandoned in favor of their own SWF implementation, and it's been that way for a while in the development releases. They're developing their own implementation because, yes, it makes things less portable and less stable.

  4. Re:.NET is a litigation nightmare waiting to happe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is Miguel's answer to GNOME becomig depentdant on MONO: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-hackers/2002- February/msg00031.html

  5. Re:Choice of GUI toolkit by miguel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Gtk# on Windows uses the UXTheme API, which will
    make Gtk+ look like every other app on the system.

    The feel in Gtk+/Win32 is already emulating the
    host OS, so you get both look and feel.

  6. Re:MONO is a disaster. by miguel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hello,

    You are wrong, Microsoft has not done anything
    to prevent code from running on Mono.

    There is the real problem that we do not
    implement all the class libraries, specially those
    that are being phased out like EnterpriseServices
    and Message Queuing. But then again, those are
    really marginal tools which were complex to use,
    so its not really a problem.

    The other bit is COM support, which we do not
    support as there is really no "COM" to talk to
    in Unix anyways.

    Miguel.