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Windows to Linux Migration in the Enterprise?
youngerpants asks: "There is a lot of talk at the moment about migrating applications from WIN32 to Linux. This certainly helps move the OSS movement along, however, the true test of Linux is in the enterprise. Whereas we can move applications, how can the enterprise itself (such as Active Directory to Open LDAP, Exchange Server to Sendmail and NTFS to Samba) be moved.
Have Slashdot readers used any applications or followed any strategies to migrate their enterprise? How would you tackle an obviously risky migration?"
Wrong examples (Score:2)
by passthecrackpipe (598773)
Man, you need to chill a little. If you get the "gist", why not help instead of smacking the poor poster with technicalities? Maybe another hit of the crack pipe?
Karnal
Yeah, well, the NTFS to Samba thing was the final straw, athough I hear the AD to OpenLDAP thing all the time, and it pisses me right off. I do Enterprise Open Source Deployments for a living - primarily desktop and infrastructure (directory, groupware and file and print, heyhey, exactly his list!) and nothing is uglyer to an AD administrator then the mess that is the Kerberos/OpenLDAP/Samba mudheap that sort-of delivers something sort of similar, but really doesn't. Even the IDEALX stuff linked to elsewhere doesn't really make the grade. For all its warts, AD is actually pretty admin friendly, and what is more, many organisations have spent lots of money to get to AD in the first place. That is why my company specialises in integrating Linux infrastructures with existing AD and/or Novell eDirectory. (integrating linxu with AD actually works pretty well...)
People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.
The sendmail point was a knee jerk reaction on my part - open exchange is a better alternative, which is why I ASKED SLASHDOT - but with the same valid points; getting from point A to point Z
oh, and AD uses LDAP, its a protocol. This would be a migration from AD to similar or better functionality through Samba/ OpenLDAP etc (once again, this is why I ASKED SLASHDOT)
I take your points onboard but I didn't really want to get into an essay for my comment. You obviously did.
I get tired of reading crap like this from folks who "know better" than everyone else. I highly doubt that you were born with the knowledge between NTFS and Samba, which means that you possess your knowledge only because someone else was kind enough to pass along their understanding to you. So why do you repay other's kindness to you by calling someone else "stupid"? Is stroking your own ego more important than helping someone else who wants to learn something new?
If you don't want crime to pay, let the government run it.
I would be interested to hear your opinion on the use of Kerberos in a UNIX environment. Personally, I am impressed by the way that MS have integrated Kerberos and made it relatively easy for application developers to use. The picture seems weaker in a UNIX environment, because few applications take advantage of Kerberos authentication (so people do not use Kerberos, so there is no incentive to add Kerberos support to applications, and so on). It is unfortunate. My question is, do you do anything interesting with Kerberos?
And before a weenie jumps all over this post with "you can do this, and do that", yes, I know that Kerberos is sort of usable on UNIX. I am hoping that someone with a clue, such as the parent poster, will go into more detail about complex deployments with custom apps. To the parent poster: I have written Kerberized apps for both UNIX and Windows, used pam_krb, etc.