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Nokia To Use Microsoft Digital Music Software
BCMM writes "From an article on Reuters: 'The world's largest mobile phone maker, Nokia, and software giant Microsoft struck a deal on Monday to make it easier for consumers to buy digital music on-line and play it back on their handsets ... Nokia agreed to put Microsoft's music player software into its handsets.'" (The BBC covers the deal as well.)
"The articles don't mention what sort of DRM or licensing will be involved." jfanning writes "Two new Series 60 phones were also announced that ship soon and support WMA, the 6680 and 6681. I haven't seen it mentioned clearly yet, but also the Media Transfer Protocol has been licenced, so that could mean the phone will show up as a media device in Windows Media 10." jfanning mentions also that Nokia has licensed the Microsoft Exchange Server ActiveSync protocol for business phones.
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Make it easier for consumers to buy digital music on-line and play it back on their handsets?
Somehow I doubt it will be easier than iTunes, and since Motorola allready teamed up with Apple's iTunes...
I want my mobile to be able to stream music. And for that matter, I also want my car stereo to be able to receive streaming audio. Downloading is so yesterday, who wants to pay per song? As a Rhapsody subscriber, I'd love to access my playlists through my phone or my car - Get on it, guys!
Despite conventional wisdom, I've discovered you can blame a guy for trying. It's called "attempted murder".
It does make sense that the media companies (i.e. MS, Apple, Napster, etc.) are trying to lock up license agreements with cell phone makers but why wouldn't these companies go after the cell phone providers instead? I mean, if Apple came up with an agreement with Verizon to be their exclusive provider of music, wouldn't it force the cell phone makers to engineer apple's DRM and iTunes into their future phones? And put another way, if I were a cell phone carrier, wouldn't I want a piece of the action and the opportunity to control media standards?
Nokia is a type of PHONE
T-Mobile is a type of NETWORK
Sheessh - If you're gonna make up random things to get FP, at least make them vaugley techincally correct.
Anyway... As for Nokia - The rest of my devices running MS stuff crash - Why Oh Why would I want my phone to crash as well??? I can just see it now. "Hello Bob, I need you to look up error code 61023... Bob? Bob?... damn - my phone's rebooted."
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Motorola has announced that they have signed a deal with Microsoft to implement the stunningly successful Microsoft Bob into their new line of phones.
I'm a big tall mofo.
Turning phones into music rental devices seems to fall under the "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should" category.
Even if you stuck a headphone jack into your phone to get around the shitty piezo speaker problem, consider that if you actually plan to use your phone for something (oh, I don't know, say, talking on it?), why would you want to wear down its battery by playing music on it?
Granted, the manufacturing processes have gotten better, or at least have been outsourced to other countries, but we desparately need to find a way to extend the life of old electronics and recycling components in order to develop a environmentally-safe and sustainable electronic culture.
Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
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I am talking about consolidation here. You consolidate your PDA with your phone. Fine. It was a wise move not to carry two separate address/phone books. It was vital and trivial decision for the business minded. But Music on my phone at the same time in return for a M$ DRM installed on my phone ? I don't know how'bout you but I do not feel my contacts staying secure after some piece of micro$oft code placed in my phone.
Obviously this unti is going to be targetted at the college kids but, how many college kids have the money to throw away on DRM'ed song downloading anyway.
In my opinion, this is going to be another one of Nokia's flops.
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Clueless cellphone users will add to clueless computer users for us to deal with.
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Microsoft supporting open standards. (snort) Now, that's funny!
if I just keep the damn thing on vibrate all the time? I hate those )(@#&@!#@!#& ringtones.
sulli
RTFJ.
Palm also licensed the MS ActiveSync (Outlook/Exchange protocol). Now Nokia. How does an open source project, like Open-Xchange, license a product like that? Beyond the legal issues of GPL on software that depends on a (very) proprietary license (which can be overcome by partitioning the licensed SW over IPC APIs), how does the project negotiate with MS, and be trusted to honor the agreement? How to pay? If this is all doable, what are we waiting for?
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... and why doesn't the story reflect that? Motorola reportedly showed off their new iTunes-compatible phone today, too!
The dirt on the Motorola E1060 - Engadget - www.engadget.com
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a huge 80's style boom box/cell phone that the kids could carry on their shoulders and they could blast their newly purchased music or their phone call, so be thankful I only floated the first idea. :-P
*Press One to Download Drivers*
Beeep
*Press Two to sync device with server*
Meeep
*Look up to avoid crashing into large truck*
Yaaaaaaagggh!
*crunch*
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When I go to download there will be that screen asking me to click on "Yes" to install the application? Yeah, that application signed by Verisign :)
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Your car already has streaming audio. It's called radio!
Nokia recognized that phones are not exactly what you'd call "high-end audiophile" equipment. Further, there is a lot of downward price pressure on phone manufacturing costs (mostly from the service providers, whose heavy discounts on phone handsets are easily noticed on their books by Wall Street analysts). Hence, you're not likely to see quality audio coming out of a phone soon, since few organizations will be willing to pay the extra engineering and manufacturing costs to put that quality into the phone in the first place.
So, realizing this, Nokia understood that putting in support for AAC or MP3-Pro or Ogg Vorbis or any other high-quality audio standard was fairly pointless, since phones are physically incapable of reproducing their dynamic range. They wanted an audio format equal to the platform on which it would be running. Hence, Windows Media.
Everyone knows Windows Media looks and sounds very poor but, on a cheap phone with low-quality sound hardware, you'd never be able to tell. So Windows Media is the obvious choice for "toy" audio applications.
If you want quality audio, however, then you'll have to get a decent piece of audio hardware that supports quality codecs.
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Why would you need to buy another computer? iTunes and iPods work fine on Windows or reasonably well on Linux. Fair enough if you don't want to buy an iPod - why not just rip the songs to MP3 and put them on your phone? Then you don't need to go paying again for music you own. If you really want to pay for downloads rather than hard copies you can also use hymn to strip the DRM from legally purchased iTunes songs which can then be used with any standard FairPlay-incapable MP4 software that'll run on Symbian on your phone, without any restriction hassle.
I'd like to know if there's anything I've missed here, but if I were you I wouldn't be giving my money or approval to a big evil setup designed to make the big bosses richer while giving you less rights.
My daughters and I have iPods, we connect them to our car stereos, the home stereo, manage it with our computer and I even use it to play music in between sets in my band. What advantage would there be having a cellphone play music? What happens if a call comes in while attached to my PA system? I'm sorry but I want device that does it's main function really well, not a bunch of mediocre features slapped together in a phone.
Now I know which mobile phone NOT to buy when I ever do switch service.
I wish someone would publish a list of the popular carriers, the models they sell and the OS the different models use.
SynCE is a way to synchronize your WinCE device's native PIM databases with a Linux (or unixlike) computer. It does not let you sync, say, Evolution, to, say, MS Exchange. That's what the ActiveSync protocol lets you do. Even if SynCE was a GPL version of ActiveSync, MS frequently changes their protocols (eg. driving Samba developers insane); the license means the protocol updates will be shared with the licensee, while SynCE users can get left behind until a developer re-reverse engineers the protocols.
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Right here. Works nicely on the SX1 stereo headset.
It does not say that Nokia is licensing Windows Media Player for phones, rather the technologies underneath, such as WMA, for achieving better interoperability with the PC. WMP10 is used as the PC frontend for the music solution they just launched.
There's going to be "support for Open Mobile Alliance (OMA) digital rights management and the MPEG Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) family of codecs in Windows Media Player via a plug-in" too to support the service.
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In other news (Score:2, Funny) SonyEriccsson reported sales increases of its handsets rose
That got modded "funny" but I'm dead serious.
I've been thinking about switching to a non-Nokia phone for my next cellphone upgrade. This clinches it.
It's bad enough that some of the existing phones are subject to attack over bluetooth. Can you imagine them with Microsoft code inside?
Maybe Microsoft WILL clean up their act here. But even if they do, given their track record I won't be able to trust them.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
Finally Activesync for nokia! Because with the nokia suite they have now, you can sync with outlook, outlook express, lotus notes, even stuff like defunct netscape calendar, or CSV files. But with activesync, it's outlook-only all the way baby! Way to go!
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