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FSF Appoints A New Executive Director

An anonymous reader writes "The Free Software Foundation (which has a new website, BTW) has appointed a new Executive Director. The former executive director, Bradley M. Kuhn, is going to work for the new Software Freedom Law Center as its Chief Technology Officer." Peter T. Brown, who is replacing Kuhn, is currently the director of the FSF's GPL Compliance Lab.

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  1. ST ref. by Mastadex · · Score: 0, Funny

    The Wrath of Kuhn!

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    1. Re:ST ref. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    2. Re:ST ref. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hah, I never get tired of that flash anim.

  2. Re:Free as in free? by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 3, Funny

    You don't want it.

    It's the work of communism and the devil.

    Besides . . . It'll never catch on. ;-)

  3. Good to see ... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Everyday it becomes more apparent that the growing success of Free Software threatens established proprietary software and media interests. These interests will continue to see our freedoms as threats, and we fully expect, and are preparing for, further challenges to our community."

    It's good to see that he understands that the fight is not only ion the software field, but also on other subjects, such as books, images, or music. He talks about the new GPL, i would also like to see improvements on the GFDL to make it more suitable to other kind of media, and other kind of books, such as literature (as it's right now, i see it more suitable and focused on tech documentation).

    He seems to have his objetives clear, it's good to see that RMS has lawyal and intelligent people arround, many times people just discards rms's words, just because it's him saying it, and the enormous campaign against him over the last years has convinced many people into looking at him like a crazy zealot, and just not hearing to what he has to say. Maybe having other people saying some things to the media would be a smart move.

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    1. Re:Good to see ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm still worried about the "new GPL". I see it as unnecessary and potentially capable to do more harm than good-- splintering the community into "GPL 2" vs "GPL 3" vs "GPL 2 or higher" is unlikely to have good effects, especially considering how difficult it ALREADY is to describe the GPL to people.

      One of the attractive qualities of the GPL at present is that your obligations to the GPL are directly linked to your distribution of GPLed products. The rumblings about the GPL 3 are that the chief elements will concern patents. This is a good thing because it means a company will no longer be able to GPL something, then cease distributing the GPLed product in question, then effectively "withdraw" its GPLing by a patent. However it is also a bad thing because it means that the GPL will no longer be a simple "conditions under which you may continue to distribute this file" license. There will be external obligations, "side effects". The major side effect here is that a company could be indefinitely licensing patents to GPLed software for all eternity by simply releasing a single GPLed program. This would be a serious hamper on corporate distribution of GPLed software; "it's okay, we don't lose anything by releasing this code" will be gone, instead corporations will suddenly start asking "wait, just by putting this software on our ftp server, we're licensing patents?".A small portion of a larger company is no longer able to argue to their superiors they can put software under the GPL without having a negative effect on the remainder of the company.

      The GFDL does need improvement though, there's a reason Creative Commons is getting so widely used and GFDL gets used by no one.

    2. Re:Good to see ... by ComputerSlicer23 · · Score: 1

      it's good to see that RMS has lawyal and intelligent people arround, many times people just discards rms's words, just because it's him saying it, and the enormous campaign against him over the last years has convinced many people into looking at him like a crazy zealot, and just not hearing to what he has to say. Maybe having other people saying some things to the media would be a smart move.

      But RMS is a crazy zealot. He is! He is! He is! However, he happens to be right about a lot of things. He happens to have an incredible drive to accomplish what any idiot could have seen was impossible when he started.

      Look sometime at some of the things that RMS has actually said. The scary part is he's coming a bit closer to reality in a lot of aspects. One of my personal favorites being that he didn't think anyone had a right to privacy in terms of their e-mail, if they wanted help resolving a technical problem. He had some long speech/manifest that is still out on gnu.org where he mentions that as a blurb (in a speech given in the early 80's, I want to say 1984).

      He's since changed his personal opinion. He used to think that it was great that anyone could log into any machine as him. His account was always, rms, and he had a blank password, or some other small set of fixed strings he used for a very long time. That way anyone could just log in as him on any machine he was given access to.

      At one point, he defended spam, and ironically only objected when he realized that the mail had so many to: and cc: addresses that it overflowed the internal buffers in the mail software and the addresses flowed to be the start of the message.

      The sad part, is that a lot of his original ideals are pretty darned "communistic". In the naive communism sense (communism might work if everyone was as good natured as RMS used to believe they were, human nature is what makes communism fail, capitalism works out better because it takes advantage precisely of the things that cause communism to fail).

      Now, RMS as of right now, is kinda well out there. He's crazy nuts on a number of topics. That doesn't mean a lot of what he does accomplish isn't good for me, or that I don't appreciate it.

      It's my understanding that Sir Issaic Newton, was well, downright obsessed with some things, we'd find incredibly strange for a man who independently invented Calculas, devised a system of physical princepals was the fundamental model for 300 years before we started to find flaws in it (and still accurately describes anything normal people deal with on a daily basis). He did all of the fundamental work in optics and probably a bunch of other areas I'm forgetting.

      Now, crazy things he did most people don't know about:

      Can you differentiate between Indigo from Blue or Purple? Newton was obsessed with numerology. So the sepectrum had to have 7 colors (Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo, Violet).

      I believe he spent an immense amount of time calculating until the End of the World. He accurately figured out the number of seconds until the world ended (I forget when it is, sometime in the 2060's if I remember correctly). That was when all the really nasty stuff from Revelations out of the Bible was going to happen. He was big into prophecy, and predicting the future.

      Newton was seriously pious and religious. I believe he was proud on his death bed that he died a virgin.

      I can't site all the infomation, but it's told to me by a guy who was a serious history buff, and loves physics. I know I've seen several times (specifically on the story on /. about one of the original copies of Newtons Physics books being sold, that Newton wrote roughly 7 Million words in his life, only about a million of them on science or mathematics, most of the rest were on other topics most people don't realize he spent most of his life).

      However a quick search came up with this interesting link:

    3. Re:Good to see ... by saforrest · · Score: 1

      The GFDL does need improvement though, there's a reason Creative Commons is getting so widely used and GFDL gets used by no one.

      Wikipedia is no one?

      But you're quite right that it needs to change. The potential for dead weight inherent in the invariant sections clause and the fact that the GFDL is GPL-incompatible in both directions is seriously sucky.

      Wikipedia specifically avoids invariant sections for this reason, but the licence itself ought to be changed.

    4. Re:Good to see ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But RMS is a crazy zealot. He is! He is! He is! The sad part, is that a lot of his original ideals are pretty darned "communistic". Now, RMS as of right now, is kinda well out there. He's crazy nuts. He's over the top. He's sure that everyone is out to get him. His attempting to label everything with the word "communism" is silly and distracting. He's trying to hard to be clever. The sad part is that he's stooping to his opponents idiotic level, and they are pummelling him with their experience.

      Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

    5. Re:Good to see ... by andrel · · Score: 1

      He [RMS] happens to have an incredible drive to accomplish what any idiot could have seen was impossible when he started. Absolutely true. But the thing is, Stallman has succeeded in accomplishing some of those "impossible" things. That's why he is a genius but you and I are just idiots.

    6. Re:Good to see ... by ComputerSlicer23 · · Score: 1
      Oh, sorry, I meant that as a compliment. If that wasn't obvious the wording was poor. I meant that he does accomplish what most people would deem impossible when he started. I recognize that as a wonderful thing.

      Kirby

    7. Re:Good to see ... by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1
      That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
      especially considering how difficult it ALREADY is to describe the GPL to people.
      After I arrived at my current place of employment, I discovered that none of my IT coworkers understood the GPL. Clearing up every confusion took about five minutes.
      "wait, just by putting this software on our ftp server, we're licensing patents?"
      Or they can just use the GPL 2. IMHO, if the alternative is a GPL 2 project with submarined patents, then they can keep the fucking software. How complicated is that?
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  4. Re:Free as in free? by gatesh8r · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not only that, it violates many copyrights and patents! Which ones you ask? We're not going to tell you; you're just supposed to believe me.

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  5. Kuhn hasn't said anything yet... by One+of+the+abnormals · · Score: 3, Informative

    on his website.

    Wonder what his reaction is?

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    1. Re:Kuhn hasn't said anything yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "They made me Executive Director of WHAT?"

    2. Re:Kuhn hasn't said anything yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rumor on the street has it that a large part of that job is trying to reign in RMS and put a friendlier face on the FSF.

      Just think about Linus vs RMS - one is always happy, smiling, likes his free software but doesn't have a hissy fit about others doing commercial software. RMS is always dour and angry and not very personable. As much as people want to like him for all the great things he's accomplished, it's pretty difficult.

      So part of that job is being the 'media friendly' side of the FSF.

  6. "[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by isolationism · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... Which is actually a nearly stock roll-out of a rather popular Content Management System called Plone. They added their logo and replaced some icons with the GNU logo and changed the blues to greys. An excellent use of multiple tiers of free software to illustrate their point succinctly; my hat goes off to the FSF and to the Plone team for a job well-done.

    1. Re:"[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by joeljkp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You know, it seems to me that, in theory, websites using the stock (or third-party available) themes for their individual CMSs is a good idea; it saves the creator work, it leaves the art to the artists, etc.

      But whenever I visit a site that uses a theme I recognize, it always makes me cringe. It's like they can't be spared the time to make their own look and feel, or something.

      True or not, that's just the feeling I get when I see such things (not FSF in particular, I didn't recognize its theme).

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    2. Re:"[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plone on top of Zope on top of presumably yet more free software... anyone know what OS it's using and whether or not it's using some type of caching system?

    3. Re:"[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by dandot · · Score: 1

      And it's still butt ugly!

    4. Re:"[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Then again, creating your own "theme" certainly has it's share of pitfalls.

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    5. Re:"[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by SunFan · · Score: 1

      But whenever I visit a site that uses a theme I recognize, it always makes me cringe.

      Well, at least you'll know which ones are Slashdot mee-too sites and can be safely ignored. Why bother adding comments functionality when no one even visits the site? Do the people running the sites break out the champagne when they get a comment after a few months or their server logs its 100th hit?

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    6. Re:"[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      But whenever I visit a site that uses a theme I recognize, it always makes me cringe.

      I completely agree. The first thing I said after looking at the new FSF for all of 10 seconds was "Plone", I scrolled down to the bottom to read the fine print and discovered that I was, in fact, correct.

      I agree with the other poster that it's far worse when a website makes it difficult to find the information you want, but something about using stock themes just screams "I couldn't be bothered to put any effort into this site, so you shouldn't waste your time here".

    7. Re:"[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by greppling · · Score: 1
      You know, it's a small step for the world, but it's a big step for GNU...

      Until recently, there were was a pretty strong policy against menus in the FSF web page coding standards. The reason the old FSF main web page had the menu on the right instead of on the left as everyone else, was that otherwise "Lynx users would have to scroll down through the menu text until they reach the actual content of a site".

      For my part, I am relieved about every teeny-wheeny bit of pragmatism sneaking it's way into the FSF head quarters.

    8. Re:"[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it is a CMS, you can be sure that any useful information will be impossible to find!

    9. Re:"[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1

      As a frequent user of lynx, links and friends, I appreciate that consideration. With CSS the menu can be put anywhere for users of graphical browsers.

    10. Re:"[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by Zoxed · · Score: 1

      > But whenever I visit a site that uses a theme I recognize, it always makes me cringe. It's like they can't be spared the time to make their own look and feel, or something.

      Funny: I usually feel the opposite. I think that maybe they spent that extra time enhancing the *content* :-) Or maybe I am just an old fart ?

    11. Re:"[The FSF] has a new website, BTW"... by DarkVader · · Score: 1

      You're probably just an old fart.

      But I agree with you completely.

      I miss the websites of the early '90s, when people didn't feel like a graphic designer needed to spooge all over the information.

  7. Welcome! by ABeowulfCluster · · Score: 2, Funny

    To our new Free Software Overlord.

    1. Re:Welcome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Overlord" is not a good name for this position because it only highlights the lording-over aspects of the job. Since one in this position must take advice from many people and integrate ideas from different sources, a better term would be GNU/Overlord.

  8. Why non-coders don't get Free Software by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The Blog of RMS is a rare opportunity to see him sum up his views. In this entry he's actually managed to fit his "copyright is no longer a good deal" concept into a single paragraph (whereas usually it takes him 15 pages). For those who don't know it (and couldn't be bothered clicking on a link) RMS basically says that way-back when we gave up the right to republish to encourage people to make works we weren't giving up much cause no-one republished back then, but now, with the internet, we all republish so we need to rethink that deal.

    It's a good argument, and it applies to software, that is, if you're a coder. People who don't code might want to republish software verbatim but most the time they don't. In fact, us coders generally tell them that isn't a good idea because of viruses and trojans. i.e., it's a lot safer to download FireFox from the official web site than it is to grab it off a friend or some shareware website. With that struck off the list, what exactly is the non-coder fighting for Free Software for?

    There's lot of reasons why users of Free Software should support it, but they don't at the moment. We, the coders, need to make sure they know these reasons. The most obvious reason to me is that it is only Free Software that can be fixed by someone other than the original developer. Proprietary software is inferior because if you want it fixed you have to go back to the original developer. It used to be a given that you wouldn't take your car back to the original manufacturer to get it serviced. Now-a-days you get a warrentee with your car that gives you an incentive to go back to the original manufacturer, but you're still free to seek maintainence from a third party.

    Warrentees strike a good balance, they force the original manufacturer to do a good job in the first place to reduce the number of people who claim service under warrentee, and they up front specify a specific date after which the customer is responsible for paying for all future service.

    Maybe if coders were to start offering Free Software with a warrentee (something the GPL specifically advocates) users would come not only to expect high quality software, but to be free to have it maintained by a third party.

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    1. Re:Why non-coders don't get Free Software by DeepHurtn! · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Very insightful post. I just thought I'd share my perspective, as a non-coder who switched to GNU/Linux last summer (and hasn't looked back!). First, I need to say that it was the rhetoric of the free software movement, especially that of RMS, that persuaded me to switch -- *not* the open source movement. You're a lot more likely to convince a non-coder, I believe, by emphasizing the freedom aspects of it than by technical ones. RMS's right-to-read arguments are what got to me, and I think plenty of people would respond to it.

      For example, I think that right now academics -- particularly those in the arts! -- could use more exposure to that type of argument. I began my grad studies in September, and I was really shocked by how dependent all of the profs were on MS file formats. These people don't like to hear that all of their research and papers might be inaccessible in 20 years -- or that if they are, they might have to give MS money just to read them.

      Anyways, IMHO unfortunately the open source ideals seem to be getting most of the publicity right now, and I think that that argument, in the long run, isn't as powerful as the free software argument is.

      Hope you don't mind the ramblings.

    2. Re:Why non-coders don't get Free Software by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Unfortunately I don't think I'm always very clear on what I mean by "support". When I say that people should "support Free Software" I mean they should pay for it. Be that by donations or by hiring a developer to do maintenance or customizations. It's like a football team. You can paint your face with the team colours and declare them the best but unless you go to the games (and pay the entry fee) you're not really "supporting" them are you? Reporting bugs and doing advocacy is helpful but you can only consider that "supporting" Free Software in the "go team go" sense.

      When I say people should "support Free Software" I mean that in the same sense as when someone says they need to "support their family".

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    3. Re:Why non-coders don't get Free Software by DeepHurtn! · · Score: 1

      Sure, absolutely, but you have to convince people that it's worth their money! I just think that the freedom (not free-beer) focused arguments of the FSF might go farther amongst non-coders than technical arguments. Even large companies should be able to (eventually) see the benefits in supporting -- in every sense of the word -- technologies that doesn't lock all of their information in closed formats.

  9. Re:Free as in free? Come to think of it... by turnstyle · · Score: 2, Interesting
    With the neverending confusion between "free as in speech" and "free as in beer", I'm kind of surprised that the FSF, etc., hasn't tried to come up with a more descriptive phrase.

    What phrase (ie, not "free software") might more accurately connote "free as in speech" without implying "free as in beer"?

    Any suggestions?

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  10. New Website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I looked at the new website, and all I can determine is that these "FSF" people are stark raving insane.

  11. Hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    They call themselves the FREE software foundation, but I emailed them to see if I could score a cracked copy of Half-Life 2 and they never got back to me.

    Hypocrites

  12. Re:Free as in free? by MrBallistic · · Score: 0, Troll

    d00d! he's totally the 0-day leader, yo.

  13. What is it with these guys and middle initials? by glwtta · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is it just to make sure they get their own TLA? So, the FSF, started by RMS, appointed PTB to replace BMK... and then probably some reference to ESR.

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    1. Re:What is it with these guys and middle initials? by RdsArts · · Score: 1

      Damn straight. Someone needs to put a stop to it.

      -rds

  14. Free Music from Napster, all you can take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://blog.kordix.com/marv/archives/000400.html

  15. Re:Free as in free? by DrLZRDMN · · Score: 1

    right here of course:
    https://agia.fsf.org/order/

  16. Free Software Overlord? by game+kid · · Score: 1

    I guess All our GNU/Base Are belong to Brown then.

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  17. They responded to me... by game+kid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ...by prodding me with a shock-stick and saying Move along. I didn't know if it was Stallman or Brown or some other guy--he did look bald and have this big gas-mask-thing on...

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  18. congraTUATIONS? by game+kid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Are those like those acTUATIONS that you inhale from an asthma pump? (FWIW I suffered from asthma once; it simply "faded" away.) I gess we all miss a letter once evey few miutes.

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  19. Unfortunately by mcc · · Score: 1

    What phrase (ie, not "free software") might more accurately connote "free as in speech" without implying "free as in beer"?

    Unfortunately the phrase the FSF has come up with to meet this exact situation is "libre", which has the same problems as "GNU" and then some, i.e., no one knows what it means until you explain it to them, and no one can pronounce it.

    1. Re:Unfortunately by turnstyle · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "Unfortunately the phrase the FSF has come up with to meet this exact situation is "libre", which has the same problems as "GNU" and then some, i.e., no one knows what it means until you explain it to them, and no one can pronounce it."

      My guess is that if you mention "free software" to 10 people who don't know already what it is, all 10 will think "free as in beer."

      The term "free software" is inclined to give people the wrong idea.

      But if you were to call it "software libre," some people would think "free as in speech" and others wouldn't understand, and would ask about it.

      Wouldn't that be much better than giving the wrong impression?

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    2. Re:Unfortunately by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 1
      Unfortunately the phrase the FSF has come up with to meet this exact situation is "libre", which has the same problems as "GNU" and then some, i.e., no one knows what it means until you explain it to them, and no one can pronounce it.
      It's pronounced "LEE-bray", as in the original Klingon or Romulan or something, from whence it comes.
      It means "You can say what you want, and I won't put this Bat'leth through your skull".
      The meaning in regards to "free software" is that using such a piece of "free software" is unlikely to result in your violent death.
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    3. Re:Unfortunately by Brandybuck · · Score: 1

      Except that "libre" doesn't mean "free as in speech". Instead it means a lack of restraint or encumbrance. Thus while it applies to "free speech", it also applies to the free end of a rope, certain styles of poetry, etc.

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    4. Re:Unfortunately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just call it "Freedomware"? It worked for the "Patriot" Act. In a post 9/11 America, no one would dare speak out against it. Let's use the ignorance of 1/2 of the American population to our advantage. (I know this post is US-centric.)

    5. Re:Unfortunately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because people might confuse it with French software?

    6. Re:Unfortunately by nick_marden · · Score: 1

      ...or confuse it with French ware. Which wouldn't be bad, because who could possibly be against those hot little maid's outfits?

  20. In that case... by game+kid · · Score: 1

    ...if they begin to require a EULA, an NDA, or an IOU, we'll be SOL and then FUBAR.

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  21. Kuhn is Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm sure he'll go on to do great things at his new job, but I really enjoyed him as the FSF executive director. His talks were some of the most entertaining and informative, and he had a real way with crowds that RMS never picked up on.

    You really should do yourself a favor and listen to the OggVorbis recordings of his talks on the FSF site. I asked a friend who really had no interest in free software to listen to just one 40 minute speech while going through his daily videogame routine, and he was a GNU convert overnight.

    1. Re:Kuhn is Awesome by tommck · · Score: 1

      It's funny. I went to college with Brad and it makes my chuckle every time I hear this kind of stuff.

      Don't get me wrong. He has done a great job for the FSF and is a good speech maker. It's just that anyone who knows anyone early in life who became "someone" later in life always has such a different perspective :)

      Good news for Brad though.

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  22. I think what you mean to have asked is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "WTF?"

  23. Re:Free as in free? Come to think of it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Software Freedom Movement" instead of "Free Software Movement". "Free Software" stays the same. (As in: "the Software Freedom Movement promotes Free Software".)

    It's less ambiguous and it's not a drastic change.

  24. Re:Free as in free? Come to think of it... by Zaak · · Score: 1

    What phrase (ie, not "free software") might more accurately connote "free as in speech" without implying "free as in beer"?

    The problem is that in English, there is no phrase that does that. Just as there's no translation for "wishful thinking" into Italian.

    In any given language there are concepts and distinctions that simply cannot be expressed succinctly.

    TTFN

  25. Re:important memo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Truly an American icon.

  26. Re:Free as in free? Come to think of it... by freakmn · · Score: 1

    Perhaps liberated? Somewhat like the libre that has been chosen by the powers that be.

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  28. ANTI-SLASH = SAD AND PATHETIC.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ...THANK GOD that it wasn't just anti-slash railing for michael's firing or he'd be here posting as much as ever.

    Anti-slash is in no way responsible for this glorious event. In addition to your web site being down for weeks, your organization has been totally ineffective and irrelevant, and I'd be surprised if there were more than one or two of you who actually were active in Anti-slash.

    I realize that you *tried* to expose editor injustices, but your months-old, hastily written, totally incomplete little list of Michael's offenses, along with whatever goatse'ing or other juvenile shit you might have done, was of no use. Instead, it was my repeated assault of detailed, informative anti-michael first-posts that likely made the difference.

    I should also mention that falling for such a ridiculous, idiotic troll further illustrates how inept and worthless anti-slash has become.

  29. Re:Moderators by hunterx11 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Sycophantic? I don't think you're using that word right. Truly inconceivable.

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  30. Well the problem is... by XeRXeS-TCN · · Score: 1

    People have touched on this in other posts, but English is one of the only languages which has no distinction between free as in freedom, and free as in cost. As a fluent French and Spanish speaker, rms appreciates the concept of a seperate word for freedom, and his speeches in other languages tend to come across a bit better in terms of ambiguity.

    As Stallman has also mentioned on occasion, there are Nineteen definitions for the word "Free" in the dictionary, and only one of them refers to price. The most apt is quite possibly:

    14. Thrown open, or made accessible, to all; to be enjoyed without limitations; unrestricted; not obstructed, engrossed, or appropriated; open; -- said of a thing to be possessed or enjoyed; as, a free school.

    So in many respects, it is not even the ambiguity of the word, it is the modern use and context of it which causes the ambiguity.

  31. FSF and OSI new blood means only one thing... by serjinn · · Score: 0

    Russ Nelson vs. Peter Brown in a CAGE MATCH!!!

    My money's on Russ -- he's angry.

    1. Re:FSF and OSI new blood means only one thing... by serjinn · · Score: 0

      Wow, I royally f'd up that url. What I really wanted to use was this.

      BTW, good advice: "(Use the Preview Button! Check those URLs!)"

    2. Re:FSF and OSI new blood means only one thing... by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

      Hehe. At least somebody got the joke. One problem with your plan: Peter and I are both pacifists. We're much more likely to sit down and talk about it to see if we actually have a problem before resorting to violence.
      -russ

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  32. are the Serial killers or murderers? by tommck · · Score: 1

    You know... it always seems that serial killers (and famous killers, in general) always are referred to by their 3 name: John Wayne Gacey (sp?), John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, etc. Only Ted Bundy and Sirhan Sirhan come to mind that aren't. Of course, you could probably just throw one more "Sirhan" in there and put him in the first list. Nobody'd notice :)

    Do you think these guys are all closet serial killers and they're trying to dupe us by just using initials? Inquiring minds want to know...

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    1. Re:are the Serial killers or murderers? by glwtta · · Score: 1

      I think it's actually that the serial killers were closet free software geeks.

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