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Microsoft Anti-Spyware to Be Free of Charge

fubar1971 writes "During his keynote speech at the at the RSA Security Conference Bill Gates announced that the MS antispyware will be offered for free. From his speech: 'We've looked hard at the nature of this problem, and made a decision that this anti-spyware capability will become something that's available at no additional charge for Windows users -- both the blocking capability, and the scanning and removal capabilities.' Additional information at Government Computer News." Update: 02/16 16:57 GMT by Z : Microsoft was previously considering charging extra for this service.

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  1. Watch for the Error.log file by Cy+Guy · · Score: 5, Informative
    I've been running this on one of my XP boxes since it came out. Here are a couple of caveats:
    • It creates (what I consider to be) an absurdly large error.log file, on mine it had reached nearly 1Gb in about a month. I have since created a read-only dummy version of the file so it can't write to it anymore and it hasn't seemed to affect the program.
    • When installed while Admin it's installed for every user, which I guess you would want the blocking for every user, but not necessarily the scanning and program update features, - which leads to ...
    • Running as Admin it doesn't find suspicious Registry Entries in other users' User Registries, which means you could be the admin on an infested machine and not know it - this is on an XP Home box, so perhaps it's different on XP Pro?
    • Though called a beta, I haven't been able to find a way to report these bugs/flaws/'features' to MS.
    1. Re:Watch for the Error.log file by aug24 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's fairly normal for a test-phase application to do more logging than is even faintly reasonable for a release-phase application. Mine do.

      For the next two points, I have never thought the MS multi-user model was worth its weight in rat shit. YMMV ;-) "Fast user switching" should be, well, fast. Like pressing ctrl-alt-f8 fast. Ho hum.

      Last point? Well, I have always wondered if MS developers put their beta-ware out for testing, then sit back and go "hey, no bugs yet" for three months, then release it, all the while never even noticing that they forgot to build the feedback mechanism ;-)

      Justin.

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    2. Re:Watch for the Error.log file by mzwaterski · · Score: 5, Informative
      To report bugs/request features you could try the newsgroup that they have setup:

      http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/defaul t.asp?ICP=spywareus

  2. It wasn't a big change... by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the first Slashdot article blurb (emphasis mine):

    rscrawford writes "CNN reports that Microsoft may charge extra for security software. So first they edge their competition out of the browser market, then they tie IE into the OS so tightly that a crash in IE can crash the computer, and then they make IE so vulnerable that just using it is hazardous to the typical computer's health, and now they want to CHARGE users to fix it?"

    From today's Slashdot article blurb:

    Quite a turnaround from charging extra to free.

    Looks like they never said for sure that they were going to charge extra. As you can see above it said "may". Now, are we all going to whine that MSFT shouldn't be distributing software with their OS to combat spyware because it "may" edge out competition in the spyware removal market or are we just going to complain that they considered charging people to use it when they aren't now?

    Because MSFT software (browser, OS, and extras like ActiveX) should have been programmed correctly in the first place I would expect MSFT to distribute this software for free. People should be able to clear their computers out of what shouldn't have been there from the get go.

    Personally, I don't care. I will likely continue to use what I have been using all along (although I have been trying to use the Mac for most surfing) as recent testing has shown MSFT's solution to not be quite as good as third party offerings.

    1. Re:It wasn't a big change... by FluffyPanda · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Bingo. People here on /. tend to forget that prefering linux doesn't mean that microsoft is always wrong.

      Maybe there are more exploits to be found in MS code than should really be the case, but that doesn't mean we should be knocking them for sandbagging the leaks as best they can.

      It seems to me that things are improving in MS land and, while I'll always prefer free/open source software, I won't be actively trying to find things to criticise when the beast actually does something right.

    2. Re:It wasn't a big change... by pclminion · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Tires blowing out due to design flaws can end someone's life. Spyware infecting a computer due to design flaws can cause someone to format their hard-drive.

      Don't be naive. The risks of spyware go far beyond lost data. I could write a piece of software than installed itself on my enemy's system and downloaded a bunch of kiddy porn. Or, I could install something onto the workstation of an FBI agent and manipulate data pertaining to a capital investigation. Or I could leak the identities of government agents. Need I continue?

      Spyware is a lethal risk. Just because nobody has written spyware of the sort I just described (actually, it probably does exist, we just don't know about it) doesn't mean the risk isn't there.

  3. Next week's news by gowen · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Doctor's who leave sponges and surgical instruments inside you body during an operation will now remove them at no extra cost to you!

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    1. Re:Next week's news by Trolling4Columbine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Microsoft is doing the Right Thing (tm) here, and all you have for them is more snide remarks?

      How effective this tool is remains to be seen, of course. But what's notable, IMHO, is that Microsoft is making a responsible gesture to their customers.

      It's OK to show a little appreciation sometimes, even for Microsoft.

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  4. Enterprise WILL be Charged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Consumer version will be FREE. Enterprise/Corporate version is NOT. They only let out one side of the story, for PR effect, it worked. You missed the flipside, for Enterprises they will charge.

  5. Hopefully MS are reading by dsginter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Great suggestions... it would be nice to see them in the finished product. One thing that I'd like to see:

    IDIOT PROOFING

    Right now, the software is far too intrusive in many modes. I just want something that will run when the screensaver comes on (or the PC is locked) and eliminates a predetermined "level" of crap. This would be a blessing for anyone who has to remove this crap all of the time.

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  6. Re:Too Bad for Ad-Aware by JPriest · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Lavasoft has found a new way to make money. Aparrently Ad-Aware no longer removes WhenU spyware. I wonder if the kickback from taking bribes will be enough to offset the sales losses created by MSFT's product?

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  7. Let see by jerometremblay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    BEFORE

    they were evil because they wanted to charge for something everybody using their crappy OS needs.

    AFTER

    they will be evil because they will bundle useful software with their OS killing competing third parties.

    Have another good day on /. Microsoft!

  8. Spyware BAD! Spam zombies GOOD! by dillon_rinker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Judging from Microsoft's behavior, they believe that spyware is bad - so bad, that they are willing to devote large sums of money to produce a product that they will charge $0 for. Why? I would guess it's because spyware can denigrate overall system performance, making it seem that Windows is slow or insecure.

    On the other hand, Microsoft refuses to provide security patches for free. If you haven't paid for a license, they will not provide you with security patches. If spam zombies and worms find their way onto your unsecured system, Microsoft doesn't care. I presume that this is because the spam does not appear to be a problem with Windows.

    But it is. I conclude that Microsoft is not concerned with security, but with the APPEARANCE of security.

  9. In related news... by mandreiana · · Score: 5, Funny


    With it's 7.x version, Red Hat is offering free of charge SSH, an application which encrypts communication between two computers enhancing security

    Debian started to include for free a verifier for weak passwords, integrated with "passwd" command.

    Novell/Suse, in order to remain competitive, included a firewall in it's Linux kernel, named iptables. No extra charge.

    In a special offer, ending never, Mandrake included free of charge Tripware, which checks integrity of the most important system files.

    However, none of Linux distributions include a free Spyware or antivirus. Windows is still ahead.

  10. Will MS get spanked for this? by haitch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Isn't this just another anti-trust lawsuit in waiting? I'm sure Lavasoft, McAfee, and Symantec will have something to say. Most of us want a more secure windows world (even me, I use OS X) so I can't fault MS for trying to do better, but what are they thinking?

    Clearly there is a thriving market for anti-virus/ anti-spyware software, so MS jumping in with a free product doesn't bode well. If MS had added this product before they they created a market for it, fine. Really what MS should do is remove the market - then it's difficult to complain they are competing unfairly. That would mean producing a more secure OS, which I thought was their top priority for over 3 years now.

    I don't mean to bash, the more antispyware the better, I'm just curious... where will this lead?

    H.