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Corporate Email Clients Reviewed

An anonymous reader writes "Some companies seem to take the easy way out by depending solely on Microsoft for their email needs. To all IT managers who want to breathe easier, however, there are about eight alternatives in the market today, including Barca, Calypso, Eudora, Lotus Notes, Pegasus, Pine, The Bat and Mozilla Thunderbird--all featured in this review."

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  1. useless article anyway... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    TBird's got potential, and I've tried switching to it a few times. But until it's a good deal more mature it's not going to rival Outlook.

    1. Re:useless article anyway... by ManxStef · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, it can be little confusing at first, but if *does* make sense (in that SMTP servers are indeed independent from POP/IMAP). I'd agree that Thunderbird doesn't compete with Outlook, but then, it's not really designed to (at least, not until they integrate the Sunbird calendaring). It does, however, make an excellent drop-in replacement for Outlook Express which is much less prone to spyware & spam, so -- alongside Firefox -- suits the average parent/in-law very well :)

      To set up SMTP servers :-

      Tools - Account Settings... then scroll to the bottom of the left-hand pane to Outgoing Server (SMTP). Most people just have one here (their ISP's). To add more, click the Advanced button in the right-hand panel (you can set one as a default, too).

      To make a particular POP/IMAP account use a particular server :-

      Tools - Account Settings... then expand the account you wish to change in left-hand pane choose Server Settings. In the right-hand panel, click the Advanced button - you should get a tabbed dialog. Choose the SMTP pane, and pick the SMTP server you want to use from the drop-down.

      Hope that helps!

  2. GroupWise? by invisik · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hello................. Pay attention, please!

    -m

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  3. Article summary by Tyrdium · · Score: 2, Informative

    Thunderbird recieves the editor's choice, with praise for its platform range, expandability (the calendar and macro editor are mentioned), and price. In his final words, the author notes that there's "no single 'best product'", and that different users need different programs.

  4. Mutt by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What, no mutt?

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    1. Re:Mutt by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Personally, I like to schedule appointments with my coworkers via 'cal'.

    2. Re:Mutt by SquadBoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But they did include Pine. Which is why the question makes perfect sense.

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  5. Thunderbird not ready for me. by jfisherwa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I tried to use Thunderbird (getting ready for the Linux switch) -- but found its address book/contact handling slightly miserable.

    Do we have an easy to implement alternative if we're looking to manage/sort/categorize a few hundred (to a few thousand) contacts? It doesn't need to have multi-user support/nor do I really want it.

  6. Calendaring? Appointments? by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some companies seem to take the easy way out by depending solely on Microsoft for their email needs.

    That has alot to do with the fact that the dominant "email client" does so much more then just email, wheras most of the programs which are presented in the list are just email clients.

    I really wish there were more alternatives, or even groupware products which use more open standards which would allow alternative clients to connect to the servers.

  7. Severely lacking in details by Wonko42 · · Score: 4, Informative
    The review doesn't provide any information that couldn't be discovered with a few simple Google searches. It's basically just a comparison of the advertised features of various mail clients with some subjective scoring based on these features. The reviewer doesn't seem to have verified that the features actually work.

    Both The Bat and PocoMail (the email component of Barca) have buggy and incomplete IMAP support, and the IMAP implementation in MS Outlook is prone to some really weird quirks that can render it unusable with certain IMAP servers. I haven't personally used Eudora or Pegasus, so I can't vouch for either of them, but Thunderbird and Pine both have excellent IMAP support.

    However, despite being an excellent IMAP client, Thunderbird still lacks support for mail redirect, a basic feature of most mail clients and one that is frequently used in corporate environments.

  8. I Agree by Uber+Banker · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you don't include Outlook (well, this is corporate, so the comparison is Exchange, an entirely different beast from Outlook) in the comparison?! Sure look at the competition but compare feature with feature, I found this article odd that they didn't objectively review the target: Outlook/Exchange

    My Take on Exchange
    As much as I dislike Outlook as an email client, it is an OK email/shared calender/shared resource platform.
    My company used to use Novell Groupwise which was OK from a user perspective but not great. Now we use Exchange and it is mainly better from a user perspective (the odd thing is inferior, like new email alerts).
    I have email, I have a calender on a personal, group, ad-hoc group and organisational basis, I have easy integration with my mobile phone/PDA, I have easy integration with out document mnagement system. It is all easy from a user perspective.
    Exchange admins do their job well, security and network personnel find it an improvement as easy to look after.
    Sure there is a charge, but seamless operation for users and a straightforward system for admins is worth paying for.
    Lock-in? They're all plain text/HTML emails and saved/transferrable as such, the calender is exportable as plain text - pretty OK compared to the properitery nature of Excel or VBA macros, something to make more of a fuss about.

    The 'editors choice': It would be absolutely great if Thunderbird had a decent calender and PIM, Mozilla is great. But at the moment it doesn't even have a daemon to alert of appointments. What a joke.
    I use Firebird as my home-based web client. I do not use it, or feel the need for it, in an organisation which parses every packet for malicious code, has many full time security and network professionals and stays on the cutting edge of security. Sure not day0, but that's the definition.
    Think about the user: I am a user with an IT skill/interest but not operational function, I'm happy about that.

    Perhaps my company is one of the better of the pack, we even have quantum crypto links with affiliates. But we are 'enterprise' and Exhange/Outlook offers an excellent deal and little lock in, which is good enough.

  9. Lotus notes? by walt-sjc · · Score: 3, Informative

    The terms "Lotus Notes" and "breath easier" are generally not seen together unless the topic is moving away from it.

    It also has some of the WORST HTML compliance / rendering of any application I have ever seen. Just do a google search for "lotus notes html email".

    Please anything but. (well, maybe not Outlook...)

  10. Related links by MrWa · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I understand that /. has a serious anti-Microsoft slant, but what justification is there for leaving Outlook out of the related links section? As for the linked article: it is sorely lacking any real information and the "review" is nothing but a poorly written listing of advertised features.

    One of the main benefits to using Outlook is the groupware features. The abilty to use it as an email client is usually the second reason, behind the calendering system combined with email client reason. Comparing Outlook to Lotus Notes or Novell Groupware makes a lot more sense then Pine, The Bat! or the majority of other email clients "reviewed".

  11. Pine? by thinkliberty · · Score: 4, Insightful

    *cough* Pine is NOT a corporate email solution.

    1. Re:Pine? by killmenow · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, it is. I know, you think it's insane. To each his own.

      Until recently, I worked in a medical billing office. Their legacy app was written in Clipper in the 80's. As of last year, they were still using it. I don't know about now. The office was still an old Novell server and DOS 6.22 clients.

      Many corporate environments believe you don't fix something that isn't broken. This system worked for them. When I first started working there (several years ago) I was tasked with giving these people (still running 486 PCs in the year 2004) access to e-mail from the same DOS systems they accessed their medical billing applications.

      Now, guess which product worked under DOS 6.22 with packet drivers for TCP/IP and supported IMAP to access our corporate e-mail system. If you guessed PC-PINE, you guessed correctly.