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NASA Plans Discovery Launch May 15

Haxx writes "More than two years after losing the space shuttle Columbia and its seven crew, NASA said Friday it has set May 15 as its target date for once again launching shuttles into space." Reader gollum123 writes points out Reuters's version of the story, which says that "May 15 was chosen as the launch date for Discovery and its seven-member crew because of lighting conditions and thermal issues related to the shuttle's launch and docking at the International Space Station."

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  1. Welcome back, STS Discovery... by helioquake · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...and God speed, Commander Eileen and her crew.

  2. What about Atlantis? by FuturePastNow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The article says that Atlantis is being prepped simultaneously for a possible rescue mission. I doubt it actually be on the other pad when Discovery launches, but how realistic is it for NASA to set up another launch on two weeks' notice?

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  3. Re:What have they done by Pentrant · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm somewhat frightened by the prospects of this and future launches. I have a friend who works at NASA, and he was telling me the other day about the "mandatory changes" list that NASA had implemented; basically, a list of things that had to be finished before the next launch.

    He said that what started as a daunting list started shrinking as items were eliminated or down-played due to budget or time contraints. It started with small things, but as pressure was put on NASA to launch again, bigger and bigger items began taking on secondary or even non-existant importance.

    The bottom line: this shuttle is launching with things that should have been fixed not fixed at all. What's scary to me is that this is the same situation that resulted in both previous shuttle explosions: problems that were known about but downplayed as unimportant. As history tells us, this was hardly the case, resulting in the loss of two shuttles.

    My friend's analysis of the situation fits with some of the studies done on the NASA disasters; NASA should be allowed to do its job without budget or political pressure, for without this they can assure the safety of the people sent into space on their vehicles.

    Unfortunately, this will likely never happen, and even the most brilliant of designs will be rushed out the door or underfunded. Tragic, really.

  4. The Shuttle: Promise vs. Reality by windowpain · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I should probably submit this as a seperate story but I'm too lazy. Here's a quote from a story at DigitalJournal.com to remind us what NASA originally promised:

    "David Aiken, an associate professor of aerospace engineering at the University of Maryland, worked at the Kennedy Space Center soon after the shuttle program was approved in 1972.

    He believes that in hindsight the reusability aspect of the Space Shuttle was grossly overestimated.

    'Actually the original mission model had 500 missions in ten years for a fleet of five orbiters. Every orbiter was going to fly every two weeks. The idea was that it would land, you would do 160 hours worth of work on it, that's basically two shifts per day five days a week for two weeks - and then you'd be back on the launch pad ready to launch again,' he says. 'Now it's turned out that it doesn't take 160 hours of time to turn it around again, it probably takes more like 3,000 hours of time.'"

    Yeah, yeah, I know all about all of the unknowns that they faced. The pioneers are the ones who get arrows in their chests. But this is ridiculous.

    I remember NASA experts and PR flacks saying so glibly how using expendable rockets was like driving across the country and throwing away the car after every trip.

    Yeah and maybe shooting a gun is like throwing a really tiny knife and leaving it in the target.

    Maybe rocketships aren't like cars. Maybe we would have been way, way better off in terms of cost--and probably human lives--if we had stayed with expendables.

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  5. Re:You have to wonder... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Russia put together several fairly major space stations over the past 30 years, without the Shuttle. Im sure that if they wanted to go it alone, they wouldnt have any trouble coming up with a way to resume construction with what they do have.

  6. Re:You have to wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    For the price of one shuttle launch the Russians can reactivate the Energia program, which can lift almost twice as the shuttle.

    If I were NASA I'd go to Baikonur and buy the whole outfit, and be done with it.

  7. Been there, done that by Pausanias · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think most in the USA have a "been there, done that" attitude towards our human spaceflight programs. Sure, the space station is supposedly laying the foundation for future manned exploration missions, but right now, all we're essentially doing is a repeat of the 1980s. Weren't they doing 0 gravity experiments back then too? And what do we have to look forward to? Mr. Bush's plans to boldly return where we went 40 years ago? And after that grow some money trees so we can somehow get to mars?

    Unmanned spaceflight has made great strides and clearly had a far, far greater impact on the public's love of space than our boring, so-tired manned spaceflight program. It's time to get creative, or else leave the mission to the robots.

  8. Re:Emergency Rescue Options... by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Some posts ask about what sort of rescue options Nasa has handy in the event of catastrope.

    Well, Presuming that the bugger does not blow up on launch, this thing is going to the ISS. If they cannot come back down due to a safety issue, they could conceivably stay up there for a while.
    True. Estimates range from 100 days to six months for the amount of time they could stay at the station.
    Also, the ISS has a Soyuz for emergency escape. They coould come down on that.

    Or they could have the Russians send another Soyuz up specifically for evacuation purposes.
    False. The Soyuz currently as ISS is required for the ISS's own crew. Also, Russia pretty much builds Soyuz on an 'as needed' basis, so there isn't another one to be sent for a while - and that will be at the cost of delaying the crew rotation that Soyuz is already earmarked for. (There is speculation and Russian hints that could be changed with a crash program... I.E. massive infusions of American dollars.)

    But at any rate, none of Discovery's crew has a Soyuz seatliner - and that means a broken back if they try and land in one. (Soyuz lands *hard*, and frequently tumbles on landing.) Also, IIRC, some of the Shuttle astronauts are taller than are allowed to fly on Soyuz.
    Using a Shuttle for a rescue is probably overkill.
    Nope. It's the only possible way.
    And if the shuttle is destroyed in the same manner as Columbia, well, once your in atmosphere on your way down, your either land in one piece or you land in many pieces.
    Odds are that the next Shuttle accident (if there is one, the odds are against it) will be something that comes from left field and bites us on the butt.