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New Distributed Project Seeks Gravity Waves

fenimor writes "Much like the popular SETI@Home distributed computing project that searches radio telescope data for signs of extraterrestrial life, the new Einstein@Home will search for gravitational waves in data collected by U.S. and European gravitational wave detectors. Albert Einstein's General Theory of Relativity predicted the existence of gravitational waves in 1916, but only now has technology reached the point that scientists hope to detect them directly."

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  1. Relevant link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/

    Posting as AC to avoid karma whoring.

  2. Re:What do gravity waves tell us? by turnstyle · · Score: 4, Informative
    "What do gravity waves tell us that EM radiation doesn't?"

    It would be another confirmation of Einstein's theory. Some more background here.

    And here's some about a recent satellite also hoping to establish the existence of gravity waves.

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  3. Re:What do gravity waves tell us? by cot · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you detect gravity waves from sources like supernovae, black hole collisions, etc. you're confirming that Einstein's GR works and that the properties of the waves (ie amplitude, duration) make sense for that particular source.

    If you can detect primordial gravity waves from the very early universe(harder!), you now have an indication that inflation (rapid expansion) of the universe is a reasonable cosmological model rather than its current somewhat ad hoc status. It nicely explains away some problems with simpler models, but no real direct test has been performed to show that it happened.

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  4. Re:ARGH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I used to run seti@home 24/7 until i realized that half of my electricity bill was from keeping my computers on all the time. I still run it when i'm using my computer (like right now) but turn off the comp when i go to bed and when i'm at work.

  5. LIGO project by karvind · · Score: 4, Informative

    Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory from Caltech is working on same subject. LIGO will search for gravitational waves created in supernova collapses of stellar cores (which form neutron stars and black holes), collisions and coalescences of neutron stars or black holes, rotations of neutron stars with deformed crusts and the remnants of gravitational radiation created by the birth of the universe. LIGO is a joint project between scientists at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), sponsored by the National Science Foundation (NSF).

    1. Re:LIGO project by ArcCoyote · · Score: 3, Informative

      Einstein@Home is analyzing data from LIGO.

  6. The coolest thing about this project is: by ArcCoyote · · Score: 3, Informative

    The kickass OpenGL screensaver it gives you!

    The BOINC versions of Seti@Home and Climateprediction are similar.
    You can attach to all of them and have the client devide your CPU time any way you want.
    BOINC also has a folding client (predictor@home), but there's no eye candy.

  7. Re:What do gravity waves tell us? by LionMan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry, gravity probe B (the recent satellite) is not trying to confirm the existence of gravity waves. GPB is looking for "frame dragging," another predicted effect of general relativity. Gyroscopes in GPB should precess, despite the fact that they are over the poles of the earth and (to first order, excluding motion about the sun and the motion of our solar system itself) not in a rotating frame. Even though the gyroscopes won't be in a rotating frame, their spacetime metric will be 'dragged' by the rotating massive earth, causing a precession of some parts of arcseconds (check the web page for more).

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  8. Re:Serious question. by jpflip · · Score: 3, Informative

    Detecting gravitational waves isn't the same as detecting the pull of gravity (that we've been doing for a long time). There is an analogy to electromagnetism - the attractive or repulsive force between electric charges is like gravity's pull, but light (electromagnetic waves) are analogous to gravity waves. General relativity predicts that accelerating mass can generate ripples in spacetime (gravity waves) that can carry away energy. There's a good bit of evidence that says the ripples are there (for instance, binary pulsars seem to spiral toward one another at just the rate that would be explained by the loss of energy to gravity waves), but the waves themselves have never been detected. Detecting gravity waves would be an excellent test of general relativity, for one. It could also give us new ways of looking at events in the cosmos, similar to the way in which radio astronomy revolutionized the study of the universe.

  9. Re:What do gravity waves tell us? by nmpeglit · · Score: 3, Informative

    Gravitational Radiation being much weaker, thus harder to detect, does not interact with matter like the electromagnetic radiation does. As a result, gravitational waves produced by spiraling binary star systems, coalescing stars, supermassive black holes etc will be unaltered when detected giving us a completely new perspective in how we look to the universe. It will be like the transition from optical telescopes to x-ray ones.

    An excellent, popular book about the topic is Black Holes and Time Wraps by Kip S. Thorne, one of the participants in the LIGO project at Caltech and a well known theorist.

    In the case of imaging invisible celestial objects , consider that, for example, Black Holes are by definition invisible, they do not emit electromagnetic radiation ( short of, if we forget the Hawking Radiation ) so astronomers predict that a Black Hole exists by observing the effects ot its existence to the surrounding stars. With gravitational radiation detectors a more direct method will be available. Plus, there exists the dark matter issue ( and others ), an extra tool would be nice to have.

    PS. Gravitational waves from the inflationary phase of the universe ( if there is such ) will be too weak to detect.

    PS2. From a more theoretical point of view there are some alternative theories ( quite serious ) like the Brans - Dicke theory, they include also a scalar field that propagates in the form of a wave as well. If i recall correctly, in this case the polarisation is different so i think ( but i am not 100% sure ) that if such fields exist a detector like LIGO will able to tell.

  10. project MiniGrail by rjdegraaf · · Score: 3, Informative

    At Leiden University in The Netherlands a project called MiniGrail tries to detect gravitational wave produced by neutron stars.