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Linux In Robots, Windows in Handhelds

savuporo writes "Robots.net is reporting that Linux-based robots are far more common than Windows-based robotics. Especially various Asian robot builders are increasingly selecting Linux and other open-source software as a basis for robot products and research. Linux is also gaining ground in other embedded applications like PDAs and mobile phones." That said, prostoalex writes "50% of all the PDAs sold in 2003 had Palm OS, while Windows family accounted for 37.7% of PDA market. In 2004 Microsoft is the leader of handheld OS market with 43% market share, followed by Palm OS with 36.3%."

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  1. Linux best in the growing market by gagravarr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It seems to me that the robotics market is a growing one - more and more robots are going to be produced in the future. Linux has this growing market.

    Windows has the shrinking market. Handhelds are on the way out, being pushed aside by smarter phones (running Linux or Symbian). Why have a phone and a handheld, when the phone will do both? So, the handheld market is shrinking, and that's the one Windows has.

    Linux 1, Microsoft 0

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    1. Re:Linux best in the growing market by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't agree at all. PDAs and phones are merging, neither one is going away. Microsoft doesn't make the hardware, they only provide the software. There are already a few PocketPC smartphones. I don't think you are familiar enough with the products to make that statement.

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  2. PalmOS is past it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This might be a viewpoint that isn't shared by many, especially considering that it does everything that a PDA needs to do - then again a 5 year old Palm also did - but it has fallen behind, limited by the old architecture of PalmOS.

    They really need to get version 6 out, the version that should be fully native on ARM hardware, using BeOS functionality and so on. They should concentrate on providing a wide range of easy to use software that looks good and performs well. Beat PocketPC where it is good.

    The sad thing is that Palm Desktop is a good application for what it does, worth running even if you don't have a Palm!

  3. Mission Critical Robots? by michelcultivo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We need mission critical OS when we need to run mission critical robots like that that disarms bombs and get people from infected areas, imagine the people telling that the OS give us a BSOD and can't disarm the bomb.

  4. iPod ? by mirko · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The iPod feature a sync functionality which makes it a read only handheld.
    Aren't there more iPod than CE handhelds ?
    This'd make the iPodOS the 1st handheld OS.
    Has someone the figures ?

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  5. Robots, hand-helds are different domains by ites · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Obviously. But the differences explain the trends.

    Robots don't have any user interface candy. They are essential servers that control complex equipment. Open source, reliability, portability to random microprocessors... all these are top requirements. Windows never controlled any robots. Linux has taken market share from other proprietary operating systems.

    PDAs are 100% user interface, and even those who dislike Microsoft's approach to software must admit that they produce nice user interfaces. Not as nice as Apples... but that's another story. PalmOS is simple but the benefit of a zero learning curve only applies when most users are newbies. People want more now. Windows delivers, PalmOS does not.

    Mobile phones are more like robots. If you've used a new Symbian phone you'll realise just how far this goes from the walk-up-and-use interface of a classic GSM. Frankly I think 90% of phone sales will remain driven by simplicity, not functionality. Windows does not have a path here.

    Lastly, I think the next big competitor in PDAs is not PalmOS nor Linux, but Apple. It's a natural progression from iPods and Apple are the only people who make nicer toys than Microsoft.

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  6. Linux advancements by Tharald · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Palmsource has decided that the next version of Palm will be based on Linux. So soon the major OSes for PDAs will be Windows and Linux (plus symbian). Personally, I have the Zaurus c760, and think it is great. Having the ability to use the huge library of linux software for the device is great (i run pdaXrom, so X-ware can mostly be made to work). I just wish Sharp or others would get their fingers out and offer more selections and market it better. -TN

  7. Re:Incredible by rseuhs · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Haha, actually, the reverse is true. Windows does great in universities and some hobby-projects because they offer sponsorships.

    In the "real" world, however, on embedded systems outside PDAs, there isn't much Windows at all.