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Visions Of The Future Of Grid Computing

CaptianGrid writes "Computing grids, or software engines that pool together and manage resources from isolated systems to form a new type of low-cost supercomputer, have finally come of age. BetaNews sat down with some of the world's leading grid gurus to discuss the significance of such distributed technologies and separate grid hype from grid reality."

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  1. X-Grid by qwertphobia · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check out Apple's X-Grid technology!

    It runs on any OSX system, 10.2.8 and up. Put your spare cycles to work.

    Xgrid: High Performance Computing for the Rest of Us

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    1. Re:X-Grid by bpbond · · Score: 4, Informative

      Our research group (at UW-Madison) has been experimenting extensively with Xgrid, and right now (with the generally available version, the beta TP2) our conclusion is: not ready for prime time. Lots of promise, pairing Apple interface simplicity with powerful (and open source) underpinnings. But in its current form, there are too many bugs. You have to implement a lot of your own code and do a bunch of workarounds to really get a big, workable grid going.

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    2. Re:X-Grid by bpbond · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a good question. We bothered because

      (i) Curiosity. Xgrid was new, and looked interesting.
      (ii) Potential. Xgrid (final version) is going to be bundled with the upcoming 10.4 release of the Mac OS. That's an awful lot of machines that will have Xgrid preinstalled, with the user basically just needing to click "start."

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  2. Plan 9 & Inferno by HyperChicken · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you want examples of operating systems that help with gridding, check out Plan 9 from Bell Labs and it's sister project Inferno. Nice thing about Inferno is that it runs on Linux, Windows, Mac OS X, Plan 9, and on native hardware.

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  3. Grid: loaded word by selectspec · · Score: 4, Informative

    The new generation of marketeers use Grid, but they rarely are refering to what computer science engineers refer to grid clustering. I think the marketeers talk about Grid when they really mean virtual Operating Systems running on abstracted hardware platforms: either a mainframe, or otherwise kick-ass multi-way system that has been virtually partioned, or something like vmware piecing together several x86 style servers.

    Frankly, I don't like the word Grid being applied in this way. However, the latter technology is facinating (virtual OS) and will come to dominate computing in the next few years.

    The basic idea is total abstraction of the application/service from hardware/location. The app gets the resources it needs, can be cloned/replicated to another location for distaster tolerance, and can scale and grow on demand based on needs by simply throwing more hardware modules at it. It's not just limited to computing but also applied to storage and network.

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  4. HPC for very specialized problems, maybe. by Rhys · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you've got a problem that's trivially parallelizable, then sure grid computing is great! RC5, seti@home, and similar projects can benefit from grid computing (really, that's what grid computing is -- someone else's code able to run on your machine when it's idle and do work).

    However, don't even begin to think you'll be solving anything that requires any sort of processor to processor communication. Rocket simulation (our local favorite example here at UIUC) for instance is heavily communication based.

    The linpack benchmark that top500 uses also needs a low-latency interconnect to perform really well, so don't expect to see "the grid" sitting up at the #1 supercomputer slot on top500.org anytime soon (or really, ever, unless someone develops FTL networking). Latency on the internet in general (and specifically around the world thru all those switches and latest_slashdot_hot_chick_movie.torrent packets) is nothing near what a supercomputer needs.

    Now, there are research groups looking at ways of making communiation delays less of a problem, including the one I was in while I was in grad school. There's a number of ways to do it, but none of them I've seen are going to take on worldwide-network-latency and survive with their performance intact.

    Even something as "simple" as chess wants to have a fast interconnect - every node that's gotten stranded working on low-priority (bad move) work is a wasted node you may as well not have.

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  5. Re:Inspired by? by kst · · Score: 4, Informative

    Um, no, Univac was a real 20th-century computer company (later merged into Unisys). Asimov probably named Multivac after Univac, not vice versa.