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Young Women Encouraged to Go For IT

An anonymous reader writes "Wednesday Microsoft Canada's vice president of developer and platform evangelism encouraged 9th grade girls to head for an IT career with a presentation that debunked key myths. Apparently IT isn't geeky or socially isolating. From the article: "Some issues (the girls) brought up included fears that their friends will think (working in IT) is a geeky thing to do, and that IT work is not very social...They were concerned that there were limitations for women in this area of technology, and they felt there is a stigma associated with IT in terms of it not being a very exciting place to work."

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  1. Not an IT stigma... by IO+ERROR · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    ...but there's definitely a negative stigma attached to working for Microsoft.

    Bad jokes aside, we need to encourage these girls to get into Linux, rather than Microsoft, thus saving them from Bill's evil influence as early as possible.

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  2. Re:Why force this on girls? by raahul_da_man · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I would challenge the truth of this statement. Women are innately inferior to men in any measurable quantity. Political correctness should not be allowed to stand in the way of hard reality. Just as the Japanese average the highest IQ for nations, so too do men average a higher IQ than women. And the results are obvious in both cases.

    Intelligence: Men average a higher IQ and SAT score, and they have a brain that is 100 grams bigger.

    SAT scores by Gender

    Female 1000

    Male 1042

    ALL TEST-TAKERS 1020

    Taken from http://www.fairtest.org/univ/2001SAT%20Scores.html

    http://www.ulm.edu/~palmer/Box5_runawaysex.htm

    In fact, after adjusting for differences in body size, males have about 100 grams more grey matter than females, a difference of about 8 per cent.

    Given that men have a larger brain, and better average IQ tests, if a field employs meritocratic selection process i.e selecting only the best, more males should come out on top. There is every reason to expect this, and no reason based in science, as opposed to political dogma, to expect otherwise.

  3. I think the first cheerleaders were men.. by TheLink · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Too lazy to look up the link.

    I think the US there's a bigger stigma against guys doing girls stuff - with remarks like "girlie men" and so on....

    Over here it's probably more the money factor. As you said there's not much money in the "girl jobs". It's probably because as a study indicated - most women just don't ask for more - they settle for what they are offered (they may grumble later but it's in the contract by that time).

    Also I dunno if I could do nursing - cleaning patients of their shit every day isn't something I'm interested in. It's an honourable profession and probably more useful to society than all these IT stuff, but... Nah not for me.

    I wouldn't mind taking care of little kids. BUT seems like half the girls in my church would probably do it for _free_. They just love carrying the cuter little kids, etc.

    Seems IT jobs don't pay that well relatively in the US.. So must be some US nerds do it just coz they get nice toys to play with...

    Over here IT definitely pays better than nursing. BUT a Montessori certified kindergarten teacher can draw in significant bucks...

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  4. More feminist lies: by 97percent · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It's called White Male Privilege.

    No, it's called a lie.

    Like many lies, it has a purpose, and that purpose is to convince women that they're victims so they'll demand sympathy and special treatment, privileges, and protection, something you seem all too eager to give them.

    It's almost hidden

    In other words, you can't prove it or give any legitimate examples of its existence, but I should just assume it exists anyway because a bunch of man-haters with an agenda and a long, detailed history of spreading other lies (e.g., "rule of thumb") say so.

    You don't have to consider sexism in the workplace

    No? So female bosses never give special treatment to their female employees? And some companies don't actively seek to hire women, regardless of their qualifications, just so they can say they hire lots of women?

    you don't have to be aware that it's possible you're being underpaid compared to the WM sitting next to you doing the same job.

    Ah, one of the oldest feminist lies ever told rears its ugly head again. That women make less money for doing "the same job." That they only make $0.76 for every dollar a man makes.

    That statistic comes from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and it's a comparison of the average salary of all full-time employed men in the country and the average salary of all full-time employed women. It's not a comparison of salaries between men and women doing the same job, working the same hours each week, doing the same amount of overtime, with the same amount of job experience, in the same city, for the same company... And surprise, surprise, when some of those factors are taken into consideration, the wage gap disappears.

    Men make more money on average because they work more hours on average each week, are twice as likely to work overtime, and seek out higher-paying, less-fulfilling jobs because they rightly assume that society (read: women) sees them as nothing more than walking wallets and determines their self-worth based on how much money they have. Men also do the dangerous jobs women won't, and makeup 93% of on-the-job fatalities.

    So yes, of course men make more money: they deserve it. There's a new book written on this very subject called Why Men Earn More.

    Even Patricia Ireland had to back off this lie when confronted with the facts. Watch her squirm once she gets called on her bullshit by the head of the Cato institute.

    Once you realize that you already have special privileges (just because you're a WM) then it doesn't seem so unfair when others are given the same.

    White women are and have always been a protected class of citizens with special rights and privileges their male counterparts do not have. The entire concept of chivalry revolves around men sacrificing for women; that women are weak and defenseless and that men need to protect them and provide for them and give up their lives for them.

    It still persists to this day, and I can give numerous examples, like the Violence Against Women Act, the federal Office of Women's Health (no office of men's health), the fact that women get custody of children more than 85% of the time (even though they initiate the divorce three-fourths of the time), a 6-7 year "death gap" between men and women no one seems eager to correct, exemption from the draft and combat service in general... The list goes on.

    Give me examples of the special treatment men receive. It's very simple, actually. The game works like this: "x law affects women unfairly because..." See if you can play it. If not, then stop trying to claim victimhood for them.