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Yahoo, Apache, Ebay, Amazon, Netscape Celebrate 10 Year Anniversaries

tagish writes "Roy Fielding writes on the Apache dev mailing list: 10 years ago today, the Apache Group decloaked with the creation of the new-httpd archive and initial accounts on hyperreal.org. I had the lucky timing of having the first message archived on the list, though we had actually been talking about what to do for at least a week before that (sadly, without any archives)." At the same time, Mike Porter simply writes "Yahoo celebrates its tenth anniversary on March 2nd." News about some other anniversaries available via an MSNBC article.

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  1. I say this in all seriousness... by Faust7 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Does Netscape even really count anymore? They're no longer independent, nor are they even influential, for crying out loud.

  2. life before apache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    does anybody know what the most popular web-server was before apache?

  3. I ALSO say this in all seriousness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What shallow person modded you insightful? The WWW would not be anything near what we have today, had it not been for Netscape in the 90s. One can argue that Mosaic had brought graphics to the WWW, but Netscape added Java, Javascript, plugins, and many other rich multimedia extensions just a click away.

    And don't forget, we would NOT have Firefox today, had it not been for Netscape.

  4. Re:Billion Dollar Babies by thogard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All thouse people had good access to inital capital because of the schools they went to and the connections they made there.

  5. Re:Billion Dollar Babies by Zeinfeld · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From the MSNBC article: "Relative youngster Google has been lauded for reaching $1 billion in sales in just six years. Well, Amazon did it in four, Yahoo in five and eBay achieved it in seven. Compare those companies with Wal-Mart, which aged to 18 before it could slap the phrase, 'the billion dollar company' on its annual report; and McDonald's took 24 years to hit the benchmark."

    Yeah and IBM probably took something like eighty years since it began in 1885 and revenues probably didn't reach the billion mark till the mid 60s. The measurements are not in constant dollars. A much better measure would be looking at how long it took the companies to reach a certain fraction of GDP. AT&T probably looks similar. Its a meaningless comparison except in constant dollars.

    McDonalds operated as a single diner for many years before Ray Krok drove up to sell them a mixer and ended up inventing franchising and it was another ten years before they went public. If Krok had had access to the amount of capital Amazon and EBay did they could have become a billion dollar company much faster.

    A better measure would be the point at which a company had earned a billion dollars in profits (inflation adjusted).

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  6. Re:Billion Dollar Babies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No it shows that people who are smart gravitate to big-name universities. People with degrees from those universities are not always "smarter", but often they are smart enough to realise the value of the big name for networking and venture capital. That is a form of intelligence also, to navigate social structures to your best advantage.

    I wouldn't say that someone is good just because they have gone to a certain institution. The reason Trinity college in Cambridge has more Nobel prizes than the whole of France is not just the quality of the teaching... It's about who are the people who seek to go to these places, and what are the entrance requirements.

    So it really does become more about who sets up shop first, as they will always have the smarter people *come* to them rather than actually *producing* them.

    So yes, for all the anti-university sentiment from some quarters of the slashdot crowd you can say something about someone from a prestige university. But that's not to say you should discount someone from another university, or a person who did not go to a uni.

    The recent article on John Gilmore is awesome, he's twice the man any google-do-no-evil-but-fire-the-bloggers-hand-over- details-to-feds-without-a-fight-and-censor-in-chin a-france-and-germany founder can claim to be.

    Same with Stallman or any of the BSD guys. All of them are massively more important in my eyes (university or no). But that doesn't say that a degree is meaningless either.

    Anyway, to return to your phrase "hitting the books", I don't think universities have a monopoly on "hitting the books".

  7. Re:Now please clean up your act by blixel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yahoo is the cleanest, free email and instant messenger for anyone, plus news & multimedia, between the three yahoo is the best...

    Google is nice but lacks an instant messenger client...


    Why would you want Yet Another Instant Messenger? At least if you have a gmail account, you can still send e-mail to whomever you like. If Google creates an Instant Messenger, all your friend(s) will have to install yet another IM client.

    No - we don't need another Instant Messenger. What we need is an IM standard based on an open protocol like Jabber.

    Though if Google created an IM client which was in fact based on Jabber, it might give Jabber the boost it needs to slow down the spread of crappy, proprietary IM protocols like ICQ and Yahoo.

  8. Re:Linux celebrates by mboverload · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Apache is what brought Linux into the mainstream. Linux owes everything to the Apache project.

  9. Someone should mention Windows 95 by bookemdano63 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not a coincidence that it is also the year of Windows 95. While Win95 has been dwarfed by today's stability and functionality it is the way the vast majority of users first accessed the internet and I don't think Yahoo or Apache or the eventual Google would be around without it.

  10. Re:Linux celebrates by segmond · · Score: 2, Insightful

    rubbish.

    I found Linux in 94/95 because I wanted a free Unix system. I was in high school then and had access to a shared BSD system. The idea of running my own Unix system, having telnet, telenet, gopher, ftp, archie, irc servers and my own root account that wouldn't get me in trouble got me into Linux. If Apache wasn't there, we would have used another web server, if Linux wasn't there, there was BSD/386, BSDI, FreeBSD. Linux owes nothing to everything, and if we really want to get down to what it owes it to, it owes a lot to Linus's attitude towards sharing + the GNU suite.

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