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Bill Gates to Receive Honorary UK Knighthood

jolyon writes "Yahoo is reporting that Bill Gates will receive his honorary UK knighthood on Wednesday. He doesn't get to call himself 'Sir' though. He becomes a Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire."

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  1. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I swear he received this like a year or two ago.

    AHA!

    and I was not wrong.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3428673.stm

    1. Re:WTF? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Informative

      from your link:

      The entrepreneur will be presented with the Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire at a "mutually convenient" date

      I guess today's slashdot story is about the mutually convenient date.

  2. Re:How much does it take? by ajs · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can't buy such an honor because it's impossible to attain (at least for Bill). I'm not sure if naturalized citizens of GB can be called "Sir", but you can't be knighted at all if you're an American (or any other nationality) like Bill. As the article stated, you can be given an honorary title, but it's not the same thing at all. It pretty much just means that you've been honored by the crown.

  3. What, no sir?? by ciroknight · · Score: 4, Informative

    An explaination of who gets to call themselves sir.. For those not quite in the know of how the Brittish Knighting system works.

    Quoting Wikipedia: "Citizens of other countries, however, may be admitted as "honorary members". They do not count towards the numerical limits aforementioned, nor are they addressed as "Sir". (They may be made full members if they subsequently become British citizens.) Notable foreign members of the Order have included Pelé, Bob Geldof, Bill Gates, Rudy Giuliani, Alan Greenspan, Steven Spielberg, Tommy Franks and Wesley Clark (all Knights Commander)."

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  4. Re:How much does it take? by Phisbut · · Score: 4, Informative
    but you can't be knighted at all if you're an American (or any other nationality) like Bill.

    Actually, you can be knighted if you're from another nationality, just not American. As long as you're from a country that is in the Commonwealth, you can be knighted. For some reason the United States aren't part of it, so Americans can't be knighted, not that it means much anyway...

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  5. Re:DOJhood! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Queen Mum is dead, you insensitive clod!

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  6. Re:How much does it take? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Informative
    As long as you're from a country that is in the Commonwealth, you can be knighted. For some reason the United States aren't part of it, so Americans can't be knighted, not that it means much anyway...

    Not to sound like a smartass (ok, yes I am), but since the U.S. isn't part of the Commonwealth then obviously Americans can't be knighted.

    However, there are other reasons why U.S. citizens cannot be formally knighted (as opposed to honorarily like Bill). Please see this link which talks a bit about nobility in America and why it is not granted and why people wanting to be naturalized citizens must renounce titles of nobility, and this link which talks about the missing Thirteenth Amendment.

    The last link (a very long read) mentions something which goes to the crux of why Americans cannot be formally knighted: to do so would mean they would have to answer to a foreign ruler. In the current case there is no expectation that Bill, or anyone who receives an honorary knighthood, will owe allegiance to the crown.

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  7. Bill Gates is quite a philanthropist by jgardn · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm a rabid Linux fan, and I detest every moment I have to test my work in IE. However, I have to say that what Bill Gates is doing outside of the computing world is nothing short from wonderful.

    I have a deep interest in education, in particular, how to solve the problems we are facing without throwing more money at them. So I am heavily involved in the school issues in my neighborhood, and I am organizing people to research things we can be doing to help out the district. What Bill Gates is doing to the education field is nothing short of amazing. Most recently, he said that the current high school system should be scrapped because it is a complete waste of time. I don't know any Linux fans that would disagree with that.

    He is also putting his money where his mouth is. I know that we are looking at getting some of his money to implement his plans in our own district, or at least in the final stages of getting the grant. I don't think there is a district in the US that isn't getting some benefit from what he is doing.

    And he does more than that. I don't know the specifics, but I know he is working in Africa and South America trying to help raise the living standard from sub-human to at least what we would call "poverty" in the US.

    That is what he is getting knighted for, and not for his achievements in amassing a huge amount of wealth. It is how he is using it that really counts.

    Now, I also realize that what Bill did to the computing world was nothing short of amazing as well. Before Bill, we were a sub-culture to be derided and spit upon. Now we are cool, and our skills have street-cred. We have Bill Gates to thank for that.

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    1. Re:Bill Gates is quite a philanthropist by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 4, Informative
      That is what he is getting knighted for, and not for his achievements in amassing a huge amount of wealth.

      Well, no. If you RTFA it says that he is being knighted for his "contributions to enterprise" and because "Microsoft software has had a profound impact on the British economy".

      This is the kind of crap that makes me sick to be British. I don't normally have a strong opinion on the Crown, but sometimes I wish they'd piss off. The knighthood system could be used to recognise truly great people who had served society beyond the call of duty. Instead, it seems to be used as a kind of archaic Oscars for "important people", basically anybody the government feels like sucking up to. Rejecting honours has actually become a serious problem: there was a story a while ago about the government maintaining a list of people who had been given honours but rejected them, and it's growing all the time.

      I'd probably reject it too - I wouldn't want to be associated with a stupid popularity contest, let alone Sir Bill.

  8. Re:Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 by dave420 · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, the not-being-called-Sir part is from Britain, not Congress. As he's not part of the commonwealth, he can't call himself Sir. It's nothing to do with America or Congress or Bush or anything, but a British thing. He's a foreign foreigner, and as such, not a Sir.

  9. Re:Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 by evilmousse · · Score: 3, Informative


    this is a restriction to hold public office. ordinary citizens are unaffected.

    i doubt there's trouble even when someone already knighted wins office, this is geared towards preventing bribary. does anyone know whether people have been made to renounce titles before taking office?

  10. Re:DOJhood! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Learn to spell... the word is "LOSE".