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Making Money Using Open Source Software?

GamblerZG asks: "As many of us probably know, convincing people to run Free Software can sometimes be a tedious task. However, there are a lot of factors that help us in that regard, and, perhaps, the biggest of them is a simple truth: Free Software is free. It's hard to argue with such statement. I know it, because I faced it today, trying to convince my fellow co-worker that it is possible to profit by writing GNU-licensed code. 'How company can make money, if its products are available for free?' That was a valid question indeed, and I could not find any simple answers to respond with. That makes me wonder, whether there are articles on the Internet, which explain and analyze how Open Source business models work? Do you know any ways to prove that such models can be profitable?" It can be done, you can check out a recent interview with an Open Source Entrepreneur on NewsForge for some hints. What other ideas and business plans do you think would be a good match for a business with an Open Source core?

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  1. is it true? by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have we finally found the Second Step?

    1. Re:is it true? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought the second step was obvious - patent ellipses.

    2. Re:is it true? by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not all software is written for sale as software; there seems to be somewhat of a perception that this is the only kind of software out there.

      For example, where I work at a research hospital, the software I work on is used for analysis of MRI images. It's not GPLed, but it's open source, free, and pretty much anyone can get access. Our money comes from grants.

      In my previous job, I worked at a major defense contractor. Software wasn't written for "sale" persay, there either. Instead, we were given a contract by a government agency to develop a piece of software for them. Of course, we couldn't open-source that software because it was sensitive, but I'm sure there are plenty of other cases of "software by contract" out there where the submitter or recipient of the contract has no financial interest in software sales - just in getting the contract filled.

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  2. No-brainer by Qzukk · · Score: 5, Informative

    See www.redhat.com, see www.sendmail.com, and so on and so forth. These people sell opensource product support, and make money doing it. This doesn't require paying some "analyst" $50k+ to write you a white paper on how to make money.

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    1. Re:No-brainer by tashanna · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So... Many... Quotes...

      No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public
      Make something idiot proof and the world will make a better idiot

      I checked with my company's IT guy - he's in full agreement. I must admit, it's fun listening to him teach the executives how to use e-mail.

    2. Re:No-brainer by operagost · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Offer customization services. Then you will be able to sell maintenance agreements. If someone wants to have your software integrated with their funky app, they won't necessarily have the expertise to do so. Get the specs and make the modifications for them (then release the source code and binaries to them).

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    3. Re:No-brainer by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      LOL.

      Here, have a clue on the house. The people who run sendmail.com? It's CTO is the original author of sendmail. How's that for making money writing open source software?

      As for redhat, are you saying that having someone who knows how to make 50 software packages work together across 2000 seats in an enterprise situation isn't worth the price of admission to Red Hat Enterprise? Do they need to have written all that software themselves in order to make money off of it? Apparently not, or they'd be out of business.

      Not to mention you're completely overlooking the fact that they wrote rpm and dozens of other tools that make their job as support as well as the actual administrators' jobs that much easier.

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    4. Re:No-brainer by fymidos · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A counter-example (and an interesting business approach) is trolltech:
      They created the QT library, and they are giving it away under GPL. They make a profit from companies that need the library for non-GPL products.

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    5. Re:No-brainer by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Indeed, TrollTech is IMO the very best example of a successful OSS company I can think of. They do purely development and support, and they make money off of both.

      However, I would argue that the reason they make that money is because they have smartly found a niche that encourages it - writing libraries that everybody wants to use. And, of course, they do what I would suggest to would-be OSS developement companies -- dual licensing.

      IMO, dual licensing is key to OSS. For non-commercial purposes, one is basically free to do what they want (or it's licensed under GPL, whatever). But for commercial purposes, the license becomes more restrictive and demanding of money.

      TrollTech really is probably the model the OSS community should look towards...

    6. Re:No-brainer by bluGill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Trolltech is an excellent example. They would not have nearly as many paying customers if it wasn't for the free version. Everyone in unixland knows KDE, and a good part of them use and like it. Enough of them are programers who have played around with the source enough to pass the qt learning curve and see how great it is. When the boss decides to start a new project they are not in position of either asking for qt, or evaluating all toolkits. The latter is hard to do, because by the time you know a toolkit isn't great you have half your application written already.

      Trolltech in fact mentions kde to those who are considering their product. When you evaluate something new it is hard to know if it is any good. It is hard to get customers to act as a reference, and even when they will there is always a question if the reference is honest. KDE is there, they can point to it and say "See, they have several million lines of code built on qt". That is worth a lot.

      In short, sell the GPL version as the demo, and the free software built around it as proof that your code is good. Doesn't work so well for non-libraries though.

    7. Re:No-brainer by JimDabell · · Score: 4, Informative

      So what has Redhat produced? Not used, but produced? The answer is: not much.

      Are you kidding? Redhat contribute to a lot of high-profile open source projects. They also provide hosting to many projects.

  3. The product is free; support isn't by spookymonster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Charge for support, customization, and installation. Show the customer that your value doesn't end when the code goes gold.

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    1. Re:The product is free; support isn't by nathan+s · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm sure other people will handle this question better, but my two cents:

      A lot of times (at least in the beginning) the developer and support personnel are one and the same person. So typically someone will do an OSS project in their spare time and then once it's complete they do the customizations/support for extra cash.

      Also, even if you charge the same, keep in mind that the difference is that the product is usually still available (GPL or whatever) for people to use. That means that people who don't want to shell out cash won't. That's a good thing!

      For support/development, you might charge more, but you'll get paid by people who are actually WILLING to pay the fees. That can be a big advantage; less penny-pinchers (doing support for those types can be a nightmare!) and hopefully a generally more positive experience overall. Plus, if someone wants an extension and is too cheap, maybe the experience of trying to extend your project themselves might make them more appreciative and loosen the wallets a bit.

      And, of course, if your product sucks, no one will want to buy it/extend it/support it anyway. But that's the nature of the game.:-)

      All conjecture, but I think it makes sense:-)

  4. Support! by Raypeso · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am a big fan of making the source free but charging for support. This gives the user/customer so much more power. They can work on your application all they want, if they get stuck or need help, they call and pay you. You can offer initial setup and configuration. Many large companies charge quite a bit for support contracts. You can as well, with the advantage of having a lower TCO for your customers.

    1. Re:Support! by kfg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "what is going to prevent other companies competing against you on support?"

      You mean like I make a decent penny now and again by supporting Windows, even though I didn't write it and MS doesn't get dime one of my fee?

      Jeezum Crow, even Billy hasn't figured a way around that one yet, it keeps him up nights working on it, but he still hasn't found the answer.

      Still, there are people who call MS for support instead of me, because it's an MS product, yes? And there are still people who call me because I give them something they can't get from MS, like my being right over and actually fixing the problem, yes?

      And am I not, when I support Linux software, taking just as much advantage of Redhat as they might be of me? I didn't pay them for the software I developed my product on. I don't give them dime one when supporting their product for a fee and they don't get dime one when I resell their product as a base to run my own on.

      There is a perfectly functional reciprocity system at work in OSS, it just doesn't revolve around the exchange of money, it revolves around the direct exchange of the code itself.

      So you don't sell the code. You make yourself fit into the sytem instead of trying to bludgeon some other system into it. You exchange it (got ma OS and development tools for free from Red Hat, given 'em back my zingblat code). Then you sell what can't be exchanged, your expertise with your own code. . . and Red Hat's (gonna support zingblat on Red Hat).

      From Red Hat's point of view it's giving away a free OS, getting back a free app they can bundle and support.

      They could sell you the OS for $20 and you can sell them zingblat for $20 and the whole thing works out the same, except now you both have to support debt, a larger army of lawyers, accountants, filing clerks, et al into the bargain.

      Aha! There's the problem with the OSS business model, it eliminates offensive, makework deadbeats in the workforce, thus eliminating jobs and destroying the economy. Billy was right!

      KFG

  5. One Possibility... by bloggins02 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Make software that is VERY extensible. So much so that the open-sourced "guts" of the software are pretty much a framework for the extenstions.

    Then, sell consulting to design, write, install, support, and maintain those extensions.

  6. Again? by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 4, Funny

    Couldn't we have summarized this as:

    Okay, it's been 2 weeks guys, so we have another programmer who wants to make money programming, but has no idea how to create a solid business model, so let's all put in some work and tell this guy how to make money with FOSS instead of those of us who have figured it out running our own businesses.

  7. It's possible. by rafael_es_son · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just take a quick look at IBM announce today they're making 38.8 million off Open-Source-based services on a single location in the span of four years.

    If that is not money, I dare not fathom what is.

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    1. Re:It's possible. by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, but did they make $38.8m off of open-source based development?

      No, IBM did not. They made that money off of support, not development.

  8. Well... by Zardus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its easy to make money off of Open Source! Slashdot just posted a story on it!

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  9. Honor system by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you use this product commercially, and feel its been of monetary value to you. Please donate a fraction of the value of the software. The value of this software is different for each person and company, please be fair. Thank you.

  10. OSS piracy by bonch · · Score: 5, Funny

    One thing threatening Open Source today--piracy.

    As we have already seen today, the GPL is under attack from evil forces known as "pirates." These shadowy folk silently steal source code and violate the GPL, infringing on the rights of GPL authors. They are nothing more than thieves getting a free ride off the work of others, and I for one am disgusted at the idea of it. As you can see in the previous article, clearly Slashdot is also sickened by the idea of copyright infringement and piracy.

    Some have even called for a lawsuit against these pirate thieves. Suing individual infringers has always been a position that Slashdot and its readership has supported, so it's only fair that the original GPL authors protect their rights and safeguard their material from being stolen in the future. I think we should all support any lawsuits against these infringers to protect the rights of GPL authors everywhere.

    I appluad Slashdot and its readers for always taking a proactive stance against piracy and copyright infringement in general, and I would like to join the cause against this "source code theft." Piracy is a major threat facing OSS today.

  11. This is easy by Tom7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is easy: Charge for the things you do. Making software isn't easy--it takes time and effort--so you should be paid to make software. Supporting software isn't easy, either, and so you should also be paid to do it. (Making copies of software is easy, so it's not fair for you to be paid to do it.) Neither of these sources of income are incompatible with free software. It's simply a matter of compensating people more directly for the services they provide.

  12. Er by cca93014 · · Score: 4, Funny

    'How company can make money, if its products are available for free?'

    In Soviet Russia it's a valid question, my friend, but not in English.

  13. It's not the software that matters by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Successful companies do not produce "products" so much as we produce "customer satisfaction". Products are necessary props in producing satisfaction, but they're not the only necessary props. Software is used to produce that satisfaction. The programmer's dream is to work only with our computer, producing that "killer app", and publishing it for the hungry masses to consumer. The reality is that customers must be sold tom if they are to pay, and that software is part of the sales process. So keeping the source closed is really sleight-of-hand, a way to protect inferior code from competition. Binary-only software is no less piratable than source code, especially with so many architectural layers that can be replaced with rebranded wrappers. Profit measures the surplus value in the *relationship* between vendor and purchaser. So open source is no different from closed source software in its role in making money. If anything, open source is advantaged in improving the relationship, and in offering more opportunities for satisfaction, as well as reducing the costs of delivering that satisfaction - hence more profit.

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  14. The TrollTech approach by dfn5 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    You could take the approach that TrollTech did and have 2 licenses. One license is an opensource one, in which you are free to use the product if your product is opensource. If your product is not opensource then you must purchase a commercial license. This is saying, if you are making money from my product then I can make money too. Seems to work for them.

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  15. Re:I don't think it was a valid question: by david.given · · Score: 4, Informative
    "How company can make money, if its products are available for free?" 4th grade grammar anybody?

    Yeah, but can anybody spot the other problem?

    "How can a company make money if its products were available for free?"

    The if...were is a hypothetical subjunctive; the writer is making a statement contrary to fact. The company's products are not available for free; the case is being postulated where they are.

    Lots more details in Wikipedia, of course.

    (No, I'm not a card-carrying pedant. It's made out of plastic.)

  16. Wrong question by JimDabell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'How company can make money, if its products are available for free?'

    Simple answer: it's extremely dificult to do so.

    The question you should be asking is 'How can a company make money, if it gives away software for free?', and the answer should be more obvious - it can do so if its product is not the software it's giving away.

    For instance, IBM's "product" is the tailor-made services and consultancy it provides. The software is merely a tool they use to provide it.

    You might argue that keeping such tools to yourself is a commercial advantage over your competitors. That's true to an extent, but there are also downsides - e.g. if you provide your own proprietary operating system instead, you don't get benefits contributed by the community, and your competitors are more attractive because there is no lock-in.

  17. I do this now by Safety+Cap · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I use OSS to augment and supplement my own code that I then sell to others.

    Recent examples include things like displaytag library, Hibernate and HTML Area.

    Of course, this means I must take a wide berth around GPL'd code, but there is enough stuff under BSD/Apache/whatever to get the job done.

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  18. Here's one example in Education by jtwJGuevara · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://www.sakaiproject.org/support.html

    In brief, the Sakai project was started by a few large institutions who were tired of buying into the licensing fees of other learning management system products like WebCT and Blackboard. They decided to create their own and make it open source - both free as in beer and speech. However, the support for Sakai comes at a price, albeit a much lower price than the aforementioned commercial products were offering.

    In the end, you recieve a completely open learning managment system created and maintained by developers at these institutions and supported by commercial interests.

  19. Some Resources by dexterpexter · · Score: 4, Informative

    Using Google search terms "make money using open source", I came up with the following:

    -101 Ways to Make Money off Open Source
    -How to make money with Open Source Software
    -Making an open source living
    -eWeek:How to Make Money Off Open Source

    I am not intending to be snitty in suggesting that you search Google; there were tons of other seemingly-good resources contained within it, and it might just be a case of different search terms. You might be able to team the information gained there with the advice of people here.

    Also, if you can gain access to the class papers from the Boston Embedded Systems conference, particularly those from Bill Gatliff in 2003, there were tons of developers there who lectured on this very thing, citing examples and explaining the ins and outs of open-source licensing. I thought Bill Gatliff did an excellent job, and you may be able to contact him through his website for some resources.

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  20. Is it so hard to grasp? by lullabud · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are other businesses where some parts of the theory behind OSS make them money.

    I pay plenty of bar tenders to make me "Open-source" drinks that I know damn well how to make on my own because I'm just no good at it or I don't want to take the time to go to the store or I'm too tired to make it etc. etc..

    People pay for hamburgers at restaurants all the time, even though even little kids know what goes in them, because they don't want to go to the store and buy all the stuff and they don't have the tools to prepare it or the skill to do it well. They just want to eat. It's a matter of convenience and skill and action.

    You just have to choose the right market. When a bar tender is behind the bar she doesn't pay another bar tender to make her a drink that they both know how to make, but after her shift is over and she's dead tired, relaxing on the other side of the bar she will. Likewise, you probably won't be able to sell your OSS products to people who make their own OSS products. You sell them to people who need solutions to problems that you can provide using tried and true OSS code. To sound really cliche, if you're selling OSS stuff you're a "solutions provider" and your solution just happens to involve free software, but businesses will still pay you to solve their problems because you are doing work, your tools are just free.

  21. Here is my question?? by Chode2235 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I attended a chat last night with someone who works for a very large medical device company. They talked about how important intellectual property was to them and that it is their life blood. So they patent as much as possible and lock up everything as tight they can to get a competetive advantage on the competition.

    However, he also stressed "living the mission" where there mission is to essentially alievate pain, help people live longer better lives." And in his next breath he said that his company would sue anyone who copies their ideas to do remote patient check ups on pacemakers etc.

    So I asked, doesn't this contradict the mission, how can you on one hand be for helping people but writing proprietary software that maximizes your revenue? Why don't you open source it all, wouldn't that be a better fulfillment of the mission? He responded by saying that it is essential that the company do this to ensure that it can be financially healthy to continue to provide these services and develop new ones.

    It seemed pretty logical to me, but I want to hear what the /. crowd and the fsf folks have to say as this is a lot of what I hear coming out of this company and even other tech companies. So its a huge obsticle to overcome for the open source/fs movement.

  22. Re:I don't think it was a valid question: by gunpowda · · Score: 3, Informative
    Ermm, no. It makes perfect sense as it stands - it would only be 'were available for free' if the main verb was a conditional, i.e. How could a company make money...?

    The question about making money is referring to the present - the same point at which the products are hypothetically available for free. English isn't a language where every 'if' clause takes a subjunctive. This sentence isn't expressing doubt or disbelief; it's a condition posed as a question.

  23. The support model sucks by dist_morph · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Trying to make a living from support eventually creates applications like WebSphere or Oracle or SAP. When the money is in selling help, you need to demonstrate that the users need help, otherwise they won't renew support.

    We've had this problem, so I'm not speaking theoretically. Most of our users bought support with the purchase of our commercial product, but after one year many of them didn't want to renew because they hadn't had any problems and didn't know what they were paying for.

    A business plan that is based on support is at direct cross purposes with creating high-quality, easy-to-use software.

  24. The case of LaTeX by miep · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The case of everyones favorite macro package for everyones favorite document typesetting system, LaTeX, might be most convincing for the stance that sometimes it's better to sell support than to sell software. From an interview with the author of LaTeX, Leslie Lamport:

    "GMZ: Was this always meant to be free software ? Did you ever try to "get rich" with it? Do you regret that you didn't?
    LL: At the time, it never really occurred to me that people would pay money for software. I certainly didn't think that people would pay money for a book about software. Fortunately, Peter Gordon at Addison-Wesley convinced me to turn the LaTeX manual into a book. In retrospect, I think I made more money by giving the software away and selling the book than I would have by trying to sell the software. I don't think TeX and LaTeX would have become popular had they not been free. Indeed, I think most users would have been happier with Scribe. Had Scribe been free and had it continued to be supported, I suspect it would have won out over TeX. On the other hand, I think it would have been supplanted more quickly by Word than TeX has been." (From TUGboat 22 (2001)

    Just a very succesful case of money made out of free/open source software that is often overlooked (and maybe one of the oldest cases as well!)

  25. Support, installation, bounties by RichMan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Paths to make money of OSS

    1) Support. Provide support for the software. Fixing or adapting it to the customers requirements for money.

    2) Installation. Really a subset of support. Will install and train in the usage of OSS for money.

    3) Add/Create OSS for money. They customer wants something. You will code it.

  26. Answer to the Question by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 3, Funny
    How company can make money, if its products are available for free?

    Volume.

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