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Spyware Critics Respond to iDownload/iSearch

Paul Laudanski writes "Slashdot ran an article earlier on 'iDownload Tries to Silence Spyware Critics'. Since then, the spyware critics have responded to iDownload: CastleCops, NetRN, and Sunbelt Software. InternetWeek and BroadbandReports have picked up this story as well. Brian Livingston interviewed iDownload's CEO Arlo Gilbert, who claims the letters were a success: "The majority of sites we've contacted have taken down or properly classified iSearch" and "When asked to name some of the sites that had complied, Gilbert answered, "I'm not going to share that information. It would be shooting a gift horse in the mouth."" General overview by Kye-U and Zhen-Xjell."

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  1. Re:Is it... by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thats exactly my point.

    I run a slew of different operating systems, which include Windows and Linux. I know what programs I run, and when. If i suspect a program to be... naughty, I create another account and run it in there.

    No matter what OS you run, you can limit permissions and run questionable apps mostly safely. Like I reiterate, it s a fault of the user for not watching what he does on the machine.

    You surf porn sites and run "programs" to download porn, you're gonna get infected. You download illegally copied works, youre gonna get infected. You open absolutely every attachment, even if it says "happy98.exe", you're gonna get infected.

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  2. Some little details by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Postal Mail:

    iDownload.com
    1180 Avenue of the Americas
    14th Floor
    New York, NY 10036

    For toll free billing support or if you know your party's extension dial: 1-800-844-5919

    AND the leech lawyers

    http://www.ssjmlaw.com

    4330 South Mopac, Suite 150
    Austin, Texas 78735
    (Travis & Williamson Cos.)

    Telephone: 512-347-1604
    Dallas: 214-800-2898
    Fax: 512-347-1676

    Tell em what you think, IANAL but I think free speech applies to private phone calls.

    If in doubt, don't do it. But I am going to tell them what I think.

  3. Re:Is it... by Darthmalt · · Score: 3, Informative

    true but I consider myself to be computer savvy and I still occasionally get things like cool web search and other programs without knowing what they came in on. Even running Kerio personnal firewall I got some ad pop under thing that avoided detection by adaware and spybot. It only showed one every couple hours so I was blaming the ad on AIM / webpages getting things past firefox. Wasn't till I went through my startup folder that I caught it.

    Though I agree that users need to take more responsibility for their computers. (insert analogy of learning to change your oil/tires here)

  4. Re:Is it... by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 4, Informative

    Im unsure of the state of your system, but this gives me a hint.

    --It only showed one every couple hours so I was blaming the ad on AIM / webpages getting things past firefox.

    Not knowing the types of things you do on your machine, Im guessing your infection vector is AIM's ads. Since they use IE's engine to display (check for yourself.. they do) you end up opening yourself to the hacks and cracks of IE. Still, IE has no priviledge escalation bug to worry about, so as long as you run as a user and not an admin, you should be safe as long as you take your data and copy it into another profile.

    My suggestion would to be to pitch AIM and get GAIM. Multi-protocol, and now AoL-Time Warner is acting nicer to 3'rd party clients.

    Still, you also need to consider watching out for rogue WMA's, WMV's and other Microsoft Media garbage. You can insert all sorts of executable code within them, including running programs from a URL directly (yes, that bad). I observed a friend watch a WMV porn vid from a BT download. Was it.. every 2 minutes, it would respawn all the programs, 5 pop-unders and 2 "install-for-free-pr0n".

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  5. Account of iSearch malware/spyware damage by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a frightening account of iSearch's damage to someone's computer: click here. "Spyware" is too innocuous a term for this. It's not a spy: it is a file assassin.

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  6. Yes free speech applies to phone calls by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why wouldn't it? However, what you cannot do is threaten them, espically with physical force. You are free to tell them their products suck, etc, but don't make any threats. Also, if they hang up on you, respect that and don't call back. If you call repeatedly, that can be harassment.

  7. Ambulance chaser of the month... by B747SP · · Score: 3, Informative
    Ambulance chaser of the month award goes to Mark D Hopkins at a pissant little jack-of-all-trades law 'firm' (though it's more of a 'closet' than a 'firm') in Texas.:Mark D. Hopkins Partner, Austin Office mark@ssjmlaw.com Born: Houston, Texas; admitted to the State Bar of Texas in 1995. Undergraduate education, The Univeristy of Texas, Bachelor of Arts with Honors and Special Honors in Economics, 1992. Legal education, The University of Texas, Juris Doctorate, 1995. Areas of Practice Mr. Hopkins litigation practices focuses heavily on matters relating to real estate transactions, construction matters, and state taxation issues. Mr. Hopkins also has considerable experience in litigating personal injury and wrongful death matters, as well as handling complex insurance coverage matters in both State and Federal court.

    Funny how he left 'stooge for scumware authors' out of his specialities...

    Markie works at the Austin office. You can contact him here: Telephone: (512) 347-1604, Fax: (512) 347-1676, The Overlook at Gaines Ranch, 4330 S. Mopac, Ste. 150, Austin, Texas, 78735

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  8. I like the Abusive Hosts Blocking List article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.ahbl.org/notices/isearch.php

    It's a second-level link from here. I'm putting the link in this post because some people may not see it and it's definitely worth reading like all good horror stories are.

  9. Everybody who got the cease'n'desist can sue! by JimMarch(equalccw) · · Score: 5, Informative

    Does anybody else remember how Diebold Election Systems had to pay over six figures to a group of ISPs/webhosts who they sent fraudulent cease'n'desists to in order to shut down public debate?

    http://blog.jimmywales.com/index.php/archives/20 04 /10/11/online-policy-group-v-diebold-decision/

    http://www.eff.org/legal/ISP_liability/OPG_v_Die bo ld/

    This strikes me as being VERY similar to both the Diebold case and various "SLAPP suits" (Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation). It's all about fraudulently using the courts or threats of same to halt public discussion and debate.

    The courts DO NOT like that shit at all.

  10. Re:Bullys by ultranova · · Score: 3, Informative

    What a bunch of donkey raping shit-eaters (iDownload that is)

    Please refrain from calling iDownload "shit-eaters". Several species of bacteria use organic waste as their nutrition source. This causes said waste to be decomposed to soil, which is then used by plants as their source of nutrition.

    Several species of backteria also live in the human gut, eating the "proto-shit" found there. This is vital for the correct functioning of human digestive system, and the reason why antibiotics can cause stomach problems if measures are not taken to prevent them: they kill not only the disease-causing backteria, but the "shit-eater" bacteria as well.

    So, as a summary, shit-eaters are absolutely vital to the correct functioning of both the biosphere and your own body. They perform their dirty job quietly, efficiently and without complaint. They do not deserve to be likened to a bunch of vicious, vile, harmfull parasites like iDownload.

    iDownload doesn't eat anyone's shit; they forcibly feed their shit to anyone whey can.

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