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Malfourmed writes "TrekUnited.com today announced that three anonymous contributors from the commercial spaceflight industry have stepped forward with a $3 million pledge toward the campaign to ensure a fifth season for the recently cancelled Star Trek: Enterprise. The benefactors explained why they believe this campaign deserves such a substantial contribution: 'We think Star Trek and especially its latest incarnation, Enterprise is the kind of TV that should be aired more often. The people responsible at Paramount think this is just a show and we want to tell them, it is not. We are in the commercial space flight industry and would like to testify that at least one out of two of all the actual entrepreneurs involved in this industry has been inspired by Star Trek; and we are not only good at watching TV sci-fi , we are also good at writing checks, big checks. The people airing this kind of TV have a responsibility; inspiration.' " We reported on this a few days ago, but this is more info about the largest donors.

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  1. Trying to herd cats by Rocketboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it's nice sentiment but ultimately ineffective. You're trying to tell arrogant people with enormous egos that they're wrong. They don't want to hear that. Unless their board is energized by powerful stockholders, they don't have to hear that. Good try, though.

    Rb

  2. They really got it together last season... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...but I can't bring myself to pay to keep hearing that horrible opening theme. If they would promise to get a new theme, I would cough up some duckets.

  3. Um... no. by datastalker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "We think Star Trek and especially its latest incarnation, Enterprise is the kind of TV that should be aired more often."

    Have they watched it? If so, have they ever seen things like ST:TNG, Babylon 5, Firefly, or even Battlestar Galactica?

    If they had, they'd realise there's better things to do with their money, no matter how much "better" this last season was.

  4. So.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What TV shows did Neil Armstrong and Gene Kranz get inspired by to ACTUALLY GET TO THE MOON!?

  5. News to You by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The difference between "news" and "entertainment" stories is that news stories are ongoing, while entertainment ends with the punchline. Because news is just messages about the real world, where events have consequences and interrelationships. I know it's hard to recognize news, now that all the TV, radio, newspaper and other media that call themselves "news" are really just killing time, giving the weatherman a straightline, or spinning something politically damaging. But real news requires updates and context, and often has wild tangents that tell compelling details about something important, without any celebrity gossip. We now return you to your regularly scheduled infotainvert.

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  6. They are also responsible for QUALITY. by visionsofmcskill · · Score: 5, Insightful
    While i applaud the intentions of these donors, indeed the entire "save enterprise" foundation is an amazing initiative of fans attempting to keep a show they love alive.

    However, Enterprise is horrible... Voyager was bad... but Enterprise is REALLY bad. I know im really drawing straws between determining which one is worse... but that really is non releveant to the point.

    The show was and is very terribly made and is even contradictory to what the intentions of gene rodenberys universe were. It's lost it's multi-culturalism, the founding principle and indeed the trademark difference star trek brought from it's very first iteration throughout the rest of it's tenure. "Enterprise" is nearly an all-white western crew with the exception of a black driver and a vulcan.

    This is NOT the vision of our future Gene painted, and it is NOT star trek.

    I understand the fans love this show for some strange reason, or maybe they simply love the Star Trek universe and will bear the burden of this worst incarnation just to keep it going... but i believe their efforts... and money.... would much better spent on getting paramount to create a new quality star trek true to its roots.

    Abandon the scot bacula, the country western intro, the nearly all-white and all-western crap of a show theyve created, and return to what star trek was supposed to be.

    If you havent forgotten, Trek was supposed to be about a HOPE for humanities united front against "the final frontier". At last mankinds differences werent as great as the difficulties in facing a diverse and strange universe beyond our little backwater pond of a planet.

    This money should be spent creating a show with better writers, a better cast and crew, and something far more canon than they have been. I would much rather see the rise of anything at least on the level of deep space nine, than any continuance of this voyager "enterprise" drivel.

    3 million could at least hire better writers, and change the cast.

    Lastly, these guys hit it on the head when they said that star trek's important role in our society is inspiration, there is no doubt it's had a cultural impact of untold magnitude by instilling the grandest dreams in our children of decades ago to even now with the belief that we could at least try to make this great society of our future. An earth united, and the stars at our footsteps... let us not let it be so easily trampled upon by cheap writers and bad marketers.

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    1. Re:They are also responsible for QUALITY. by SleepyHappyDoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      However, Enterprise is horrible... Voyager was bad... but Enterprise is REALLY bad.

      That's totally a matter of taste. You don't care for the show. Obviously the donors do. No one is putting a gun to your head and telling you to donate to help save a show you don't like. You have the right to spend your money how you choose, and so do they.

      Abandon the scot bacula, the country western intro, the nearly all-white and all-western crap of a show theyve created, and return to what star trek was supposed to be.

      Who decides what Star Trek is supposed to be? Gene Roddenberry created it back in the 60's, but he's been dead for over ten years now. It is no longer his, and the rotting hunk of flesh in the graveyard doesn't care about Trek in the least. The people who decide are the viewers and the fans. They vote with their remote controls and their dollars. I agree with the losing the theme, but it's only what, 60 seconds? Mute your TV, the visuals still look good. As for the all-white, all-western, I take it you didn't see Malcolm (white but not Western), Travis (not white at all, although I can understand why you might have missed him), Hoshi (also not white), and several speaking roles by Hispanic and Asian MACOs in season 3 (Daniel Dae Kim was one, in 'The Xindi'). There's also the Denobulan doctor and the Vulcan woman, who, while played by white actors, are not realy white chracters. Racial integration and acceptance doesn't mean every company should have a member of every type and colour and race of humanity involved, it means a world where colour is no longer a consideration. I think Enterprise and Star Trek have done a wonderful job in portraying this kind of future. No one in the show ever said a thing about Tuvok being a black Vulcan, and there's never been (to my knowledge) any distinction between racialness portaryed on Enterprise. They are all just humans (except the aliens, of course).

      Anyways, your opinion on the quality of the show is immaterial. These people like it enough to pay big dollars to see it. They have the right to do that, just as you have the right not to.

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  7. Re:Well by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    well.
    actually...

    it's not the production costs that really matter in the end.. it's the money they think they can make with it - that's the reason to butcher up a show in the end anyways. a noisy minority that wants the show to continue doesn't bring in that much advertising revenue. and seriously speaking, if they brought out a new better show most of the enterprise fans would jump right in.

    as for responsibility.. bah. grow up. i don't think anybodys going to run out of inspiration anymore and it certainly isn't coming from enterprise.

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  8. Re:Brings up a good question by cashman73 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So they're basically asking folks to just throw their money at Paramount to continue producing a television series with mediocre ratings. So that Paramount can then ultimately cancel it (let's imagine it actually makes it to seven seasons), and then start selling DVD sets of the show?!?!



    Last time I checked, amazon.com was selling the
    first season of Deep Space 9 for $103.99!! Compare that to the price for the
    first season of Stargate SG-1 at $52.47,... Now, we all know the, "true cost" of producing DVDs these days, and given that, even the Stargate guys are making a buttload of profit off of their DVD sets ... think of the mad money that Paramount is raking in from TNG, DS9, and VOY (oh yeah, not to forget about thos original series back in the 60s),...



    Granted, I like Enterprise and all, especially now that the show is actually getting good this season (and not to forget about T'Pol's boobies ;-). But donating cash to a show/producer to produce a series that they're ultimately going to profit on like crazy in the long run is just insane. If Enterprise is to be saved, the fans need to make the clear case to Paramount that they want it to continue, without simply "donating" money to the studio. They need to convince the execs that the fan base is out there and they will be able to make money from advertising on the show. But I sure as hell ain't gonna donate money to a company that's practically ripping its fans off at the DVD store after the show!

  9. Re:Wha? by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Whoever modded you just doesn't understand how important a decent kebab at the right time can be. Much better than Enterprise.

    Hear hear! Bring back Futurama. Now there's a series genuinally in need of resurrection.

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  10. "not just a TV show" by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These people exemplify the worst trait of science fiction TV show fans- they don't realize that it is JUST A TV SHOW. It's not a religion, or a philosophy. It's a TV show. Made by a business. Played out by actors.

    Does it have to be?
    Does it have to be just a television program? Can't it grow into something more? Can't it be a movement? Can't it be a means to spreading a message of hope and logic and tolerance?

    Star Trek was all these things, once. Paramount has been letting Rick Berman kill all of that, they want it to be a cash cow, not a symbol.
    I thought they'd suceeded in killing it, but those campaining fans seem to still feel "it".

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