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Vonage's CEO Says VoIP Blocking Is 'Censorship'

Avantare writes "CEO of leading VoIP provider says port blocking of VoIP traffic is one potential small step toward an unwanted future of IP-based censorship. According to Vonage Holdings Corp. CEO Jeffrey Citron, intentional blocking of Voice over IP traffic is more than just a competitive dirty trick -- it's an act of censorship against free speech. In an exclusive interview here Tuesday [March 1], Vonage's chief executive said the issue of the company's recent incident of having some VoIP traffic blocked reaches beyond the market for IP-based voice communications and into the realm of free speech -- and as such, should be protected by the courts, the FCC, or by new telecom regulation that ensures free and open access over the Internet."

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  1. leave it to the market by fatjesus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the market will take care of this

    the day my ISP blocks a voice over IP port is the day that I switch to another ISP

    1. Re:leave it to the market by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That only works given two conditions:

      1) a significant number of people are not only aware of the issue but actually care about it.

      2) a significan subset of 1) have a viable option to switch *to*

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    2. Re:leave it to the market by fatcatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's right, more and more we just don't have options. IMHO, this is akin to the phone company blocking access to certain numbers because they just don't want to route them. How would you feel if you weren't allowed to call a phone number you wanted, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it because your telephone provider is the only one in town?

      ISPs should not be allowed to filter service like this. My DSL provider IS a phone company, about the time VOIP starts eating into their service they can just turn it off and screw me. That's not right, and is a valid reason for federal regulation of ISPs much like phone companies have been regulated for decades.

  2. Not "censorship"... by rkischuk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...just anti-competitive business practices by entrenched, government-sponsored monopolies. Still bad - but I guess "censorship" elicits the stronger, knee-jerk reacion.

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  3. Common Carrier? by CarrionBird · · Score: 3, Insightful
    AFIAK ISPs lay claim to "common carrier" status, so they aren't responsible for the content they carry.

    Doesn't such selective conetnt filtering make them lose that status? Sounds like bad mojo for them.

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  4. Nonsense by joke-boy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If I understand the issue, certain ISPs are blocking the ports used by VOIP apps for whatever reason (bandwidth, probably). Assume for the moment that the VOIP complaint is valid. The logical next step would be for trojan writers to say that blocking ports that their trojans use is *also* censorship.

    ISPs shouldn't be required to support VOIP, any more than they're required to support email, FTP, or any other service. An ISP should be free to choose the services that it wishes to support, and a customer can then choose an ISP that offers the services that he desires. If VOIP is a good thing, then customers will punish ISPs that don't support it. If it's bad, then VOIP will die (as is natural in a competitive marketplace). The VOIP cry of censorship is just an attempt to get legislative backing for a business model.

    1. Re:Nonsense by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful
      ISPs shouldn't be required to support VOIP, any more than they're required to support email, FTP, or any other service. An ISP should be free to choose the services that it wishes to support, and a customer can then choose an ISP that offers the services that he desires.
      I agree completely. However, if an ISP chooses not to allow certain protocols to operate over the network, then I think they should be prevented from using the word "Internet" in their advertising. I think that's reasonable: if you're not actually going to provide full access to the Internet, why the hell should you be able to imply you do?
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  5. Re:Censorship... by shystershep · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Find a dictionary. Not sure where you got the idea that "only governments censor." It's only a First Amendment issue when the government is involved, but that doesn't change the fact that this is censorsihp: namely, an ISP telling you what communications you can send/receive over your connection.

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  6. Re:Censorship... by Omnifarious · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have begun to think that the distinction between corporations and governments isn't so cut & dried as some people seem to think it is. I think any organization becomes government-like as it grows larger.

  7. Re:Censorship... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only governments censor. This would be anti-competitive. Semantics, yes, but an important distiction nonetheless.

    You are incorrect. First anyone can censor, not just governments. Second, these corporations are given special legal protections by acting on behalf of the government as "common carriers" of communication, and as such are required to maintain impartiality in order to retain that status. An ISP is immune from prosecution for carrying child porn, only so long as it impartially transmits data, regardless of what it is, and does not attempt to police the content of its network. Whichever ISP this is just opened themselves up to prosecution for child porn, copyright infringement, libel, false advertising, etc., etc.

  8. Re:There *could* be a way around this. by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Unless of course the system was designed with rotating ports protected by a secure key. Imagine that when you sign up you are given a software key by Vonage or whatever other service provider. Whenever your client connects to the DNS server it will pass the request + a key. The DNS server will respond with a random port, which will accept a connection (from a client with your certified key) for the next 10 minutes. If you don't connect within that time or have to reconnect it'll just generate a new port number. If the ISP tried to query them then they would either a) not get a response at all for not having a key, or b) even if they did have a key, they would be assigned a DIFFERENT port than you.

    Of course one wonders how long until they just filtered out connections to a specific IP, but that's another issue.

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  9. Re:There *could* be a way around this. by junelson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The ISPs don't need to port block. They can block at the application layer. Numerous solutions exist out there to shape traffic at the application layer, including recognizing the RTP traffic associated with a SIP call.

    I don't think the big guys will block VOIP. They don't need to. If they prioritize their in-house VOIP traffic and then just treat the BYOV (Bring Your Own Voip) traffic as normal web - or perhaps even a lower level, the call experience will not be as good on the BYOV as the in-house. Bundle this with their marketing power, triple play capabilities, and power backup (the cable companies are already building out power backup), and they won't need to block it - the "market" will work it out for them.

  10. Re:There *could* be a way around this. by arkanes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ooh, private network. Good point. I guess all the telcos better give back all that funding and the tax breaks and the eminent domain right-of-way and everything else that they got because they were making something of public benefit. There are very few large corporations, and none that built, build, or maintain nationwide infrastructure, that can make a non-laughable claim that their network is "private". Hell, strictly speaking, the *only* reason corporations are even allowed to exist as legal concepts is to provide societal benefit. It's right there in the legislation.

  11. Re:Umm.... by erroneus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just because someone has an ability to do something, it is not the same as having the right, morally, ethically, legally or otherwise, to do so.

    Internet service can be viewed just as phone service is -- as a common carrier device. If a phone company were to block certain incoming or outgoing calls without your prior autorization simply because they can and don't want you to, for example, contact a competing company to set up service with them, they'd find themselves in a HUGE pile of doo-doo.

    In this case, and I may be reading this wrong, but they are blocking a type of internet traffic for no reason other than to be anti-competitive. This harms the consumer. And before you start saying "well then they should just move to a different ISP!" there are times then they are the only broadband game in town and as such could be found to be abusing monopoly power... that's yet another big pile of doo-doo they don't want to find themselves in or else they'll end up like Microsoft and... oh wait, nevermind that is a bad example isn't it. ;)

    But seriously, if they begin blocking types of service that customers have access to, then it's time to examine the terms of service at the very least... but I think someone from the DoJ should be peeking into this affair.

  12. Re:There *could* be a way around this. by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "It is a private network?" Please. If a phone company started monitoring my phone calls in order to find out which brand of corn flakes I prefer, nobody would defend them by saying, "Well, it's their system."

    The Internet is becoming a critical enabler of free speech, and if those who carry Internet traffic are going to start unduly mucking about with the packets I send, then it's time to make them stop.

    You would have a point, if VOIP actually consumed mammoth amounts of bandwidth, or otherwise disrupted service for everyone. But it doesn't. Certainly there are much more pressing bandwidth hogs to go after. Anyways, all the quality of service issues that might be relevant to this could be handled by using simple traffic shaping against heavy users, without regard to what functions the traffic was serving.

    Essentially, you're saying that if the Internet can do something, but your ISP would make more money if you were doing it a different way, it has the right to keep you from doing it over the Internet.

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