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Rambus Patent Claims Dismissed

Gogo Dodo writes "The patent infringement claim by Rambus, the SCO of the chip world, against Infineon have been dismissed by a judge in Virginia due to Rambus destroying documents relating to the lawsuit." Of course, Rambus is already planning an appeal, so this may not be over just yet.

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  1. Enron and Arthur Andersen by fembots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think after Enron and Arthur Andersen, if you touched the documents you're gone.

    1. Re:Enron and Arthur Andersen by miu · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Of course there are some benefits to being old frat buddies with the president aside from fond memories of keggers and coke.

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    2. Re:Enron and Arthur Andersen by dpilot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Martha Stewart gets out of prison today, and starts her house arrest.

      and AFAIK, there's only been one Enron defendent that has actually gone to prison - two if you count that the courts were going to let the man and his wife (names forgotten) server their terms serially, so the other could keep the home with the kids.

      Good to know that justice was swift with a $60k problem that really affected no third parties, and nice and slow (slow as in never?) on a multi-billion dollar problem that bilked thousands out of their retirements and/or life savings. IMHO the noise against Martha last year was a sideshow to divert us from Enron. Last I heard, Ken Lay was putting together a web site to tell "his side of the story."

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  2. In other news... Rambus faces patent infringement by AthenianGadfly · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rambus faces a patent infringement suite from SCO for using their business model and becoming the "SCO(tm) of the chip world"

  3. Re:in addition by ravenspear · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The stupid thing is, litigation was not "brought about." They brought the damn litigation! I guess they just didn't realize how stupid their claims were until the ridiculousness of it all became apparant in court. Then they probably shredded the documents to cover their ass, avoid countersuits, etc.

  4. Legal Section by nacturation · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I, for one, think it's about time the slash overlords created a Legal section. This really doesn't have anything to do with online rights. Similar to the Politics section, a Legal section would hold stories like these, SCO's machinations, and any other article where it's two companies duking it out in court and where my rights aren't affected.

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    1. Re:Legal Section by Duncan3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm sure that's on their list right under "stop posting dupes"

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    2. Re:Legal Section by ravenspear · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually I doubt that's on the list at all. Taco has said that he doesn't really care that much about the dupe thing and he thinks people who constantly complain about dupes are dumb.

  5. Re:First Post... by virgil_attack · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sure we all are. Since this is Slashdot however I find no need to back up my wild claims with solid facts.

  6. Re:SCO of the chip world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To be fair, it's really an unfair comparison.

    SCO is a IP litigation company which purchased a company with many valuable copyrights (IE: Code) to sue others into oblivion.

    Rambus is a technically adept company with many valuable patented technologies, which squandered what advantages they had by trying to lock everybody into their tech and sueing anybody who competed...

  7. Re:Litigation by Associate · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Buyer beware.
    I can't sue IBM because they soldered the procs into their early mother boards.

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  8. Re:Appeal by Keeper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are assuming that they did destroy evidence. If you lost the right to appeal a decision based on findings in that decision, you'd end up with a catch-22 type situation that could be abused.

    They'll get their appeal. If the appelete court finds nothing wrong with the lower courts decision, they'll lose. If the lower court erred, they'll get a do-over, and they'll win or lose on the merits.

  9. Oh no! by null+etc. · · Score: 4, Funny
    "The patent infringement claim by Rambus, the SCO of the chip world, against Infineon have been dismissed by a judge in Virginia due to Rambus destroying documents relating to the lawsuit." Of course, Rambus is already planning an appeal, so this may not be over just yet.

    Man, I really hope they win the appeal. I'd hate to see them lose their ability to innovate.

  10. Ram busted by harvey+the+nerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's about time. The courts need to begin to seriously sanction deceiptful and fraudulent behavior, otherwise, Chaos. This is a minimal sanction. Surely the judge recognized the previous fraud conviction, tossed but..., as well as clear document destruction makes this a no brainer. At all levels - Court of Appeals, Supremes, GWB, Congress - I think Rambus' credibility is SCO'd. Busted Rambus! Stick to your own inventions next time please.

  11. OT: CmdrPot, meet kettle by Platinum+Dragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    he thinks people who constantly complain about dupes are dumb.

    Oh really?

    I think dupes, especially ones posted within the space of a day, are an indication that the editors are not even reading their own site. There have been numerous recent examples of editors failing to check for working links and at least ensuring a hint of accuracy in submission text, along with proper attribution, before posting. If they're going to take the time to post something on a page viewed by millions, they can take a few extra minutes to make sure it isn't crap, or posted two hours earlier and three items down the page. Otherwise, wtf are they doing all day?

    Really, if the editors/authors can't live up to their self-granted titles, and can't give the viewing community--which is helping pay for the site either through ad views or subscriptions--a greater degree of oversight that they won't do themselves, I see no reason to ever subscribe. As it is, I'm pretty close to mapping slashdot.org to 127.0.0.1 in my hosts file and staying away for a while.

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  12. Re:First Post... by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First, it's about time. I worked as a videographer in 2000-2001, and taped MANY Rambus/Infineon depositions. I was glad to be in the know about what was going on, but after a while it got quite boring -- except in situations where a lawyer was questioning an expert. I remember one time an Infineon lawyer was questioning a Rambus hired expert and asked him what a flip-flop was. He answered a switch, then the lawyer asked him if it could be used as memory, and the expert (rightly, if you remember your electronics) said in some situations. After an hour, the lawyer still wasn't clear on what a flip-flop was, but the expert had answered every question accurately!

    It was pretty clear, from the beginning (I think one deposition I had to do one Saturday morning was the first in the case), that Rambus was trying to pull a fast one, but all the technicalities let them keep doing it. Unfortunately, the Infineon lawyers were, almost every single one, rude, pompous jerks that reminded me of Commandant Klink swaggering around like they were important and the Rambus lawyers are calm, polite, and great to work for. It was a shame to see the nice guys on the side I hoped would lose.

  13. Re:SCO of the chip world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have to post anonymously, because I actually KNOW something about this. I was a Rambus licensee, and did a Rambus-based design. I have been to Rambus headquarters. I also know people who were at the JEDEC meetings at the time in question.

    IMHO, your first two sentences are absolutely true. The third is/was false.

    At the time I dealt with Rambus, they had competent engineers and really did have some decent IP. When I was there, I saw a 50-50 mix of engineers and managers, but on my way through the building saw a decent number of CAD-equipped cubicles.

    IMHO, all the litigation is based on what WAS a decent patent application. They just extended it and drew claims on it that they had no business doing.

  14. Re:SCO of the chip world by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Informative
    Nope. That company, today, is called Tarantella. The company called SCO today used to be called Caldera. They owned SCO for a few years at a time when SCO's core Unix business was failing, and had the SCO part of the business concentrate on their Tarantella administration suite. SCO was then spun off, renamed to Tarantella, with only the Unix IP "assets" and the SCO name kept by Caldera.

    Caldera was previously best known for buying Novell/Digital Research's anti-trust lawsuit against Microsoft for the numerous abuses Microsoft made against DRDOS. Once Caldera won that one, they spun off what was left of the DRDOS development team in the form of Lineo.

    It's fair to say they are, for the most part, an IP litigation company. They've had some good people (good in the sense of not evil) people running them for the times they've been Caldera + Some Company With Something Real For Sale, but they keep returning to a theme, spinning off the companies that do the real work and keeping the lawsuit material.

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