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Intel 6xx Series Reviewed and Benchmarked

sebFlyte writes "It's been a long time coming, but Intel's first 64-bit desktop chip (the 6xx series) is here now, and thanks to ZDNet it has been thoroughly tested. The article has the full specs of the new family, explains the benefits of the changes, and also the results of tests on the new chips to establish perfomance boosts for games, photo manipulation and video work, among other things."

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  1. Naming by fembots · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Looks like Intel's really moving away from marketing its GHz. Its Pentium M has been using 7xx, and this 64bit is on 6xx.

  2. Intel plays catchup by dmf415 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Intel has fallen behind as the mainstream CPU manufacterer. I wonder how long consumer will pay a premium for slower Intel CPUs

    Analysts' assessments came after Intel announced last week that it was scrapping plans to develop a 4-gigahertz version of its Pentium 4 chip. On Tuesday, AMD unveiled a pair of advanced new chips, the Athlon 64 FX-55 and the Athlon 64 4000-plus, which analysts believe will be more appealing at the high end of the PC market.

    more here:
    http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story _title= Analysts--AMD-Beating-Intel-in-Chip-Design&story_i d=27767&category=hardware

  3. Re:Not impressed by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And Alpha 21264 still outperforms Intel per watt. I'm not impressed.

    That's a silly comment, it's like saying "my wristwatch calculator outperforms any Intel processor per watt". But wait... can I do heavy-duty image processing and 3D stuff with my wristwatch calculator??

    The real question you should be asking yourself, with regard to such processors, is whether one is more powerful than another, period. Because power consumption is hardly their main selling point, although it can be a plus.

    --
    "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
  4. Re:Slower? Says who? You? by i41Overlord · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That is just damage control going on at Ziff-Davis. Intel used to be a big investor in ZD, I don't know if they still are.

    I remember when I worked at a mobo manufacturer back in the late 90's, ZD WinBench was the major benchmark used to measure the performance of chips/motherboards/PC's. This was during the time that AMD came out with the K6 processor, and had a lead in most benchmarks. Next thing you know, Intel's investing in ZD and ZD comes out with an "updated" version of the program. I test it out and suddenly AMD's chips seem to be choking on the benchmarks, while Intel's chips got a nice speed boost. Very shady tactics.

    I dealt with Intel and I'll tell you that they're a very dirty company to deal with. They use the same tactics as the Microsofts, Walmarts, and other big companies that use their current power to stifle competition.

  5. Intel 6xx heat is still a problem... by dtjohnson · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The Intel 660 reviewed in the article has closed the gap quite a bit with the Athlon 64 4000+ but it looks like heat is still a problem for Intel, even with the new 6xx 'prescott' cpus. The Intel 660 has a thermal design envelope of 115 watts vs only 89 watts for the Athlon 64 4000+. More significantly, the Intel 660 has hardware and software mechanisms to automatically reduce the core voltage and clock speed when high temperatures occur as described in this review:

    • Thermal Monitoring 2
      TM2 is overheat protection, controlled by the processor's PROCHOT signal (processor hot). This signal is activated if the CPU's thermal diode detects critical temperature levels. TM2 will dynamically reduce core voltage and clock speed in order to cool down the CPU.
    • Enhanced SpeedStep
      SpeedStep does exactly the same as TM2, with the difference that it is initiated by the operating system. Whenever the system load is low, Windows XP SP2 will cause the CPU to lower the clock speed in 200 MHz increments by using ACPI mechanisms. Again, this is performed dynamically, which means that executing a demanding application will cause the system to speed up again.

    These sorts of protective mechanisms mean that your "3.6 Ghz" Intel processor might not be operating at either 3.6 Ghz or the core voltage that you have selected when either the motherboard or the Windows XP operating system determine that the thermal situation is getting out of hand. The original idea behind the early implementations of this stuff was to protect your cpu from catastrophic damage when the cooling fan failed, or some similar catastrophic event. Now, however, the stealthy way that Intel is implementing these mechanisms in both the hardware and the OS suggests that they have moved into the realm of selling performance that the system may not thermally be capable of delivering on a sustained basis. Will the user see any indication that their system is slowing down or that the voltage has been decreased? In effect, the Intel systems are becoming more like 'dragsters' that are capable of short periods of high acceleration and speed but perhaps unable to operate at speed on a sustained basis.



  6. Power consumption by D.+Book · · Score: 5, Interesting

    IMHO, the area in which AMD has really distinguished itself is in the power consumption of its desktop processors. Generally speaking, non-Intel x86 CPUs (from AMD and Cyrix) historically had a reputation for running extremely hot. The situation has been reversed in recent years, with Intel pushing the upper limits of power consumption with its Pentium 4 (especially with Prescott) while AMD was doing the exact opposite with its Athlon 64. This has resulted in a huge difference in power consumption between the two competitors. Consider the following CPUs which are basically direct competitors (roughly the same price):

    Power consumption at idle
    Athlon 64 3500+ (Winchester): 13.4W
    Pentium IV 640 (Prescott 2M): 35.4W

    Power consumption at full utilisation
    Athlon 64 3500+ (Winchester): 47.5W
    Pentium IV 640 (Prescott 2M): 129.4W

    Source: 90nm Processors from AMD and Intel Pentium 4 6XX.

    The often trivial differences in performance look rather insignificant in comparison. Also consider that these results come after Intel's best attempts at reducing the P4's power consumption (enhanced idle states in P4 5XX and SpeedStep in the 6XX) and you can see how inefficient the architecture is in this regard.

    This of course applies to desktop CPUs. Intel redeems itself somewhat with its Pentium M in the notebook market.

  7. Re:Intel is expensive? by Bnonn · · Score: 3, Interesting
    So you find it silly to be a fan of a corporation, but you don't find it silly to hold a grudge against one? You haven't forgiven AMD for marketing BS, yet you have chosen to ignore entirely similar BS from AMD? And you think that $20-$40, which amounts to around what, 10%-20% of a CPU's price, is a minimal difference? Where did you get that figure from anyway? I just checked the cheapest prices listed in New Zealand (where I live), and Intel offerings are over $100 more expensive than equivalent AMD ones.


    Very consistent logic. Well done. Fanboy.