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Utah Considers Forcing ISPs to Filter Content

tipsymonkey writes "Cnet is running an article on how the Utah governor is considering signing a law that forces ISPs to filter content deemed harmful to minors. This would apply to large scale ISPs like AOL as well. They have until March 22 to decide whether or not to sign this into law."

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  1. Slashdot.org by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Funny

    For the sake of maintaining the Utah readership, hopefully this isn't signed into law.

  2. ...'harmful'.... by raydobbs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's that nice and vague word - harmful. Who gets to decide what's harmful? Their parents? The head of the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals? The local Nazi political party? The Parent Teacher Association? The local DFL?

    No thanks - I want to be able to have unfettered access - and just teach my OWN kids where they don't want to go. It's called PARENTING!

    1. Re:...'harmful'.... by miskatonic+alumnus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you realllly want to protect your children from the big bad mean old world full of ads and porn, I suggest you don't tell the government about them and keep them locked up in the home without internet access, telephone, video games, radio, music, art, TV, books, newspapers, or anything else with information in it. All that stuff corrupts them, you know. Family members and friends can corrupt them too --- keep 'em in the basement --- in the dark. They'll be just fine.

  3. Does the - by thewldisntenuff · · Score: 5, Funny

    First Amendment still apply in this country anymore?

    1. Re:Does the - by Jerf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The legislature can pass what laws it likes. The courts can then strike them down when they are challenged.

      Given the rulings of the Supreme Court, this would be a trivial case for even the lowest courts to strike down, barring an "activist judge".

      The system is working as it is intended to. Panic when the Supremem Court (or even the relevant Circuit Court) upholds it, which won't happen. You can't keep stupidity out of the system, you can only build a system robust enough to handle it when it happens.

  4. Let's do it the other way around... by broken · · Score: 5, Funny

    If Utah was taken off the Internet, would it make a sound?

  5. Matter of choice by consumer by timgoh0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The proposal , "S.B.260, says: "Upon request by a consumer, a service provider may not transmit material from a content provider site listed on the adult content registry.""

    Content filtering in this case is not forced, but a choice by the consumer

    This is similar to the content filter that my local ISPs in .sg offer.

  6. Oh puhleeze by tensai · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you read the article you'll see that the proposed law only requires ISPs to provide a way for customers to opt-in to a filtering scheme. It does not require them to filter every packet. I don't think the bill is worth the time, but let's at least evaluate it for its real faults and merits, not some sensationalized bunch of baloney.

    In the end, I doubt this law would do much. ISPs are being asked by their customers to provide content filtering. $$$ is a much more effective motivator than laws. And those who don't want to spend the money to implement it, don't have to but also will lose customers to those who do. Sounds fair to me.

  7. This won't get passed by sgant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's politicians pounding their chests and showing their people that "see, I'm trying to do something"...yet they KNOW this will never fly past the Supreme Court. I mean, come on.

    It's like when everyone was trying to pass a law making it illegal to burn the American flag. Of COURSE this would get shot down by the Courts, yet it looks great when re-election comes back around and they get to say "see, I was all for a ban on blah blah blah".

    Say what you will on how the Supreme Court will change and then it will start passing these laws, but so far, even the conservative judges can see how un-constitutional these idiot laws are.

    Cause it comes down to this...who decides what's "harmful"?

    It's BS and yes, it will get shot down. No one will stand for this....and please, don't give me "oh yeah, just wait" crap. That's all speculation.

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  8. Crazy Utah by fsterman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is totally impossible. Utah has a track record of passing laws and fogetting about the constitution. They "traded" a public section around the temple to the LDS church. The church put in all kinds of money to revamp the area and in exchange no one could swear or talk shit about the church in the area. It was deemed a violation of the constitution and everyone was pissed that they had put in all this money and have a silly little thing called "rights" come in and skrew everything up.

    The US (or some state) already tried to pass a law that required a warning that anything not suitible for children on the internet required a warning. The ACLU stopped it quick.

    This is just some conservative trying to get more votes by proposing an impossibly unconstitutional law. Like when they tried to pass the law that it was okay to display the 10 commandments in schools. They know it is totally illegal, but gets them a lot of press and cred with their voters.

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  9. "Christian Purity" offers this now by Animats · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There are "filtered ISPs", like Christian Purity. They're not very successful.

    There's "AOL Broadband for Kids", if you want that.

    So the free market has this covered. And nobody buys.

  10. Political leaders are not necessarily intelligent. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Questioning the sanity of Utah leaders is close to the real issue.

    It is not necessary to be intelligent to get elected. It is only necessary to be popular. Many politicians have very little analytical ability. In this case, they can't see all the reasons this idea won't work.

    Note to political leaders: Avoid embarrassment! Whenever you are considering a law involving computers, have Slashdot make it a story first. Hundreds of thousands of Slashdot readers will gladly tell you if there are problems with your idea. It's free, and it's quick. You will get at least 500 comments in 24 hours, if your idea is especially embarrassing. Many of the comments will be useless, but there are a lot of very smart Slashdot readers.

  11. Re:One possible solution by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's very difficult to line up US society as it currently is with that society that the Founding Fathers wanted to create. Heck, some of the big ones like Thomas Jefferson weren't even Christians, and found some of the notions of Christianity quite outrageous. Unfortunately young Johnny isn't going to hear about Jefferson's deism in school, or about the reasons why the Founding Fathers thought separation of Church and State was so important.

    I can only conclude at this point that there are individuals who are attempting to destroy the barriers between their religious beliefs and the law of the land. Not being an American, to a certain extent it's more of an academic observation. Certainly if the majority of the citizens of the US think it's okay for churches to be used as electoral tools for political parties, then I guess that's what will happen.

    But make no mistake, the current batch of wanna-be theocrats are betraying the high and noble ideals of the Founding Fathers. The country they want to create is precisely the kind of country that many English noncomformists fled. They want to turn back the clock, to create a society where the Enlightenment never happened.

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  12. Re:Political leaders are not necessarily intellige by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And when Slashdotter corporations donate to their campaigns, politicians will actually care what Slashdotters say, even if our comments are insightful. And when Slashdotters actually organize as voters in districts, politicians will actually care what we read.

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