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Can Sci-Fi Fans Face the Future?

khendron writes "The Toronto Star has an article about sci-fi fans and their ongoing habit of protesting the cancellation of their beloved TV shows. From mailing bras to starting malicious Internet rumours, devoted viewers try all sorts of things to protect what they love. That's not always good news."

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  1. Another thought... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Maybe Sci-Fi shows have run their course. After all, it was Sci-Fi that displaced the western, which had a long run.

    So ... what's replacing Sci-Fi? (Please, please, please, not reality TV, please, please...)

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    1. Re:Another thought... by JPriest · · Score: 3, Interesting
      So ... what's replacing Sci-Fi?

      The internet.

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    2. Re:Another thought... by miyako · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, it seems to me that a lot of Sci-Fi is being replaced with shows that have a bit more of a paranormal twist, like the (now defunct) Buffy and Angel, and shows like Charmed.
      They have a tendancy to follow some of the same themes and styles, like the morally ambiguous choices of heros, and the sort of adventure feeling.
      Of course, it's been quite a while since I've watched TV, so I could be on the wrong track.

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    3. Re:Another thought... by Monkelectric · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Eh, you're two horrible generations behind. The paranormal stuff got started when I was in high school with the X-Files, and Im an old man now. Paranormal is already old hat as is its successor, Reality shows. The real question is, what horrible abortion am I going to not watch next?

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  2. Final show appalling? by RonnyJ · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It's somewhat dismaying to read one of the comments from Jolene Blalock in the article, apparently regarding the final episode of Enterprise.

    There is an awkward silence when the subject of the final episode is broached. "I don't know where to begin with that one," she finally stammers. "The final episode is ... appalling."

    1. Re:Final show appalling? by yotto · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Whenever I see ellipsis (Those little dot dot dot things) I instantly think "MISQUOTE!" There are two possibilities here:
      1) She said "The final episode is," then paused dramatically, and finished up with, "appalling."
      2) She said something like "The final episode is an endearing tribute to both the failed show and the Star Trek universe, and I find the fact that it will be seen by so few to be appalling."

      Either way, I think the way she was quoted was ... appalling.

  3. It's human nature... by dingo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...you just try and organise a "please don't axe our favorite show" protest before it has been axed. It just wont happen.

    Too bad as it would probably work better.

    Executive types hate reversing decisions, somehow thinking it implies they don't know what they are doing, but deciding not to can a series...thats just another choice that can be made without loosing face.

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  4. Fandom makes for lazy writers by eln · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem with Enterprise is, the studio knew that there was this already existing rabid fanbase for all things Trek, so they figured that they could put any old crap on TV, put the Trek name on it, and they would have a built-in fanbase. Sadly, all of these protests have proven them right.

    Unfortunately for them, this time the fanbase isn't big enough to sustain a series, even on the low ratings friendly UPN. The article also states how they hope to be picked up by the Sci Fi channel, which requires even lower ratings of its fare.

    The problem is, Enterprise really isn't a very good show. It needs to be cancelled. Maybe it will mean the death of the Trek franchise, but I seriously doubt it. More likely, it will result in someone down the road coming up with another Trek series and actually putting some effort into writing a quality show.

  5. So what is the gender split for enterprise fans by kgruscho · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The article towards the end mentions that some of the more successful fan movements have been largely the result of female fans. (e.g. Farscape) I wonder to what extent this is true of Enterprise? Anybody have some numbers? The impression I get from the marketing of Jolene Blalock is that women have not been marketed to..

  6. 'moribund Star Trek movie franchise' by jchap · · Score: 3, Interesting


    It's somewhat dismaying to read one of the comments from Jolene Blalock in the article, apparently regarding the final episode of Enterprise... .."The final episode is ... appalling."

    Without any hint of humour whatsoever I can say - What do you expect? The other episodes were appalling too.

    I'm far more concerned about the following attempt to defibrillate the trek movies:

    ...also a prequel, supposedly set between the Enterprise era and the original adventures of Capt. Kirk.

    The idea being, one can fairly safely deduce, to re-purpose expensive existing props and sets while hiring an all-new cast of unknowns, rather than pay the inflated fees routinely demanded by established series actors.


    Am I alone in thinking that this sounds like it could be really really shit and completely kill off trek for a decade?

    SciFi is supposed to be about the future - to look forward. Prequels while still supposedly about our future are still the plain old past in respect to the Trek (and the viewers') timeline and will instantly loose something because of it. It's like hobbling yourself and admitting that you have no vision to share right from the outset. Once you loose your audience's trust, trust that you know where you're going (B5) and that both the journey and the destination will be of interest, you simply loose the audience. Trek writers have often slipped up on this one. The wretched Holodeck had all the interest and drama of a dream sequence and, while I personally always enjoy time travel stories, I can understand that if your brain files time travel and 'Holodeck' together that you would want to gnaw one of your own legs off* listening to them all the time.

    1) Lazy plot devices bore audiences to death.
    2) No surprises, no vision of the future, no trust.
    3) No Audience.

    *(Really happened to the President of the Mid-Galactic Arts Nobbling Council)

  7. Re:how is it not always good? by Misanthropy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So we've gone from "fight for what you believe in" to "fight for what you enjoy"?

    I find it pretty pathetic that people would put so much effort into fighting for something so trivial. It's a TV SHOW!

    Why not put your "fighting spirit" towards something that actually matters?
    Maybe it just gives them the illusion of being "rebels" or fighting for a cause. It's protest role-playing. Fighting for a cause that might have some real significance is just too risky.
    There are plenty of valid causes that geeks can support without risk of bodily harm, lawsuit, inprisonment, etc. Put your effort behind one of those, it might actually make a difference. Even if it doesn't at least you tried.

    What would you rather tell your grandkids?
    I fought hard and got Spaceshit3000 extended for another 3 seasons.
    or...
    I joined the fight and helped to bring about the end of software patents (just an example).

  8. Wow that's elitist by Aexia · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's a lot of printed sci-fi crud out there too that panders to the lowest common demoninator. They're two different mediums with different strengths and quality matters in both.

    If you want to cherry pick Philip K Dick as being representative of sci-fi books, you have to let me cherry pick Firefly as representative of sci-fi television. And frankly, I'll take Firefly anytime.