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Microsoft Developers Respond To .NET Criticism

Posted by Zonk on from the seeya-stinktown dept.

bonch writes "Richard Grimes of Dr. Dobbs Journal wrote an article entitled Mr. Grimes' Farewell, in which he discusses what he feels are inherent flaws in .NET, and how he is abandoning his .NET column. Grimes argues that .NET is merely thin wrappers to Win32 calls (Avalon uses message functions that date back to 16-bit Windows), that Microsoft has abandoned confidence in both .NET and sales of Longhorn, and that the framework itself is too large and poorly implemented, most of it ported from past APIs like WFC and VB. Dan Fernandez, Microsoft's Visual C# Project Manager, has responded in his blog. Richard Grimes appears in the comments to defend his criticism, referencing first-hand disassembly of .NET APIs using ildasm. Scott Swigart has also responded to the criticism of Visual Basic .NET. Apparently, Mr. Grimes struck some nerves."

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  1. Re:Microsoft pays the bills! by Yaa+101 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Nah, they just die out like should in evolution...

  2. Thank you to Dan Fernandez by evenprime · · Score: 0, Troll
    RG:The framework redistributable is 25 MB, which is many times larger than the Java redistributable.
    DF: My Response: Maybe I'm being too picky, but the size is 23,698K or 23.7MB. While Java's runtime is smaller, it still weighs in at 15MB.
    Yup, Dan, you are being picky. You also just proved that his bloatware alert was correct.
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    "Weapons should be hardy rather than decorative" - Miyamoto Musashi
    I think that goes for OS's too
  3. don't mod. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    asshole tries to get someone's IP banned.

  4. Re:sometimes things have to hurt. by Big+Nothing · · Score: 0, Troll

    My PS/2 works like a charm. Then again, I think it's made by Sony, not IBM.

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  5. Re:no suprises. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    too bad you can only use ruby and python with shitty little interpreters.

    remember when people wrote compilers and software was fast? those were the days.

  6. Re:Thin wrapper? by jrbrtsn · · Score: -1, Troll

    Could the editors of /. please create a "slashdot.net", where all .NET developers could have their discussions?

    Discussing VB.NET on "slashdot.org" is like discussing training wheel technologies in a professional bicycling forum.

    ,,, and the signal to noise ratio continues to plummit...
    Blech!

  7. OH NO! Now they all know!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    There are inherent flaws in .NET!!! .NET is merely thin wrappers to Win32 calls (Avalon uses message functions that date back to 16-bit Windows), that Microsoft has abandoned confidence in both .NET and sales of Longhorn, and that the framework itself is too large and poorly implemented, most of it ported from past APIs like WFC and VB.
    NOW WE ALL KNOW! I never understood the technology behind .net nor its function or purpose. There had to be some description somewhere of what this stuff actually did. Now we know. It's to dumb-down the art of making software even further. .Net? .Nyet!