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Peeking at Netscape 8
Andrew Sayers writes "It seems like Netscape 8 has hit blogland, with generally positive review at blogspot.com - although it makes the point that the IE rendering mode could hurt Firefox in the long-run, because it gives sites an excuse to stick with their old IE-only designs." Ah, remember when the release of a Netscape mattered?
I installed it, First thing i noticed is the weather on my browser interface... And then something called weather bug... To ME, The interface is overwhelming. I don want messenger icons, shopping links,and what ever else they sqeezed in to fill the empty spots. Back - Forward - Print is all I need on my browser.
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Review talks about how pleasing the new toolbar interface is. GAG. Its absolutly horrendus.
Another third-party browser will ultimately help the browser scene, regardless of how widespread its adoption is. At any rate, the release of this browser, especially with the publicity surrounding it, might help bring the need to reform the Mozilla development process (from an article a few hours ago).
Competition never hurt, and whether the new Netscape is a success or failure, its another alternative for users tired of the current selection of browsers for whatever reason.
Ultimately, a wider selection of browsers will benefit the internet as a whole, by encouraging open standards, rather than allowing any one manufacturer to dictate practice with their usage majority.
Yes indeed: Until Netscape 3, it was the reference, then it got equaled by MSIE. It remained used as the non-MS alternative but since Mozilla, Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox and Opera, there's no place for it anymore, also because it's not even supposed to be anything else than a re-branded OpenSource product.
I guess Firefox was the best we could obtain and also the last positive thing Netscape could have done.
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I am old enough to remember when they were the top dog, but I still don't remember when they mattered.
Ah, remember when the release of a Netscape mattered?
Actually, this one matters quite a bit. For example:
the IE rendering mode could hurt Firefox in the long-run, because it gives sites an excuse to stick with their old IE-only designs."
This release isn't a good thing. It's a blow to the progress that Firefox and Mozilla have made, and more to the point, it's a significant FU to the developers, as it reduces all of their hard work to a painfully ugly IE add on.
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why post it? I thought it was "News for nerds, stuff that matters." There is so many things that matter that are not accepted for post, I think the editors should be ashamed of saying something like "Ah, remember when the release of a Netscape mattered?" and then just posting it.
FTA: "Considering the recent popularity of Firefox, and the brand name Netscape holds, I can foresee this being a very popular browser. It could not only be a threat to Internet Explorer, as Firefox has been, but also Firefox itself."
Netscape? Strong brandname? Yes people who have been on the net for awhile know of them, but the way I see it the Netscape PR department have their work cut out for them to match the media buzz that surrounded FF 1.0 release, let alone convince people they should switch from IE/FF (back) to Netscape.
"It's a blow to the progress that Firefox and Mozilla have made..."
Why is it a blow to Mozilla and Firefox? Are Moz and FF copying what Netscape is doing? No? Are Moz and FF still available in configurations you prefer? Then what's the problem?
", and more to the point, it's a significant FU to the developers, as it reduces all of their hard work to a painfully ugly IE add on."
How is this a Fuck You to the developers at Mozilla? I seem to recall that Mozilla wouldn't exist without Netscape, and there's that small issue of Netscape basically paying Mozilla's way when it went independant. If anyone has a right to base a browser on Mozilla, it's Netscape.
Oh, and some businesses NEED a browser that can view IE code, because some business apps require it. You don't have to like that, by way shoot Netscape for providing an alternative to IE that fills a need?
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it makes the point that the IE rendering mode could hurt Firefox
More than Firefox. The Microsoft HTML control (the IE rendering engine) is inherently insecure by design. It's not possible to use it in a way that doesn't open up cross-zone attacks because "security zones" are such a deep part of its design. The IE rendering mode has the potential of hurting anyone who uses it but think they're somehow safer because they're not using IE.
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"Ah, remember when the release of a Netscape mattered?"
Do the math...
I have the impending feeling that this browser will try to give Firefox a black eye. People will say "this is based off of Firefox" and then when the IE rendering engine lets in spyware and malware people will then say "Firefox is a piece of crap!!" when in their ignorance it was the IE engines fault the whole time. Notice that there isn't that much concentration on IE's part of this browser when most articles are run on it, or when people talk about it...but as with anything AOL touches, you can be rest assured that it will follow the same path of other software that has been acquired by them.
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There are a couple of email only PCs at my university that have been around since 1997. They're certainly not faster than P00. Only last year they've exchanged IE for Firefox - and it runs quick and with far less problems than IE.