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Microwires Can Replace The DVD-ROM

neutron_p writes "A former Soviet Union military development finds its use in modern technology and still remains fascinating." The development comes in the form of a flexible microwire, 10 micrometers thick and 10cm long, with a metal body and a glass coating, which the linked article says "can store 10 Gigabytes of information. It is possible thanks to their magnetic properties. Anyway, it's not that easy. Researchers say that the greatest difficulty will be with the reading of information."

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  1. Isolinear chips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Star Trek geek in me coming out... :)

    1. Re:Isolinear chips by k96822 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, that's old Trek! They're using bio-mimetic gel packs now. Sheesh, you're so 24th century. :-)

    2. Re:Isolinear chips by Kippesoep · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's "bio-neural gel packs", actually. Do I get modded down for being too Trekkie (especially considering that's ST:VOY)?

  2. What military purposes? by winkydink · · Score: 4, Funny

    3 or 5 times thinner than a human hair, these fine threads were invented in the old Soviet Union for military purposes... Data wig? What?

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  3. Write Only Memory by sjbe · · Score: 5, Funny

    the greatest difficulty will be with the reading of information

    Is the long anticipated write-only memory here at last? Huzzah!

    1. Re:Write Only Memory by serutan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Because of course, in Soviet Union, flexible microwire reads you.

      heh-heh, I crack myself up!

    2. Re:Write Only Memory by magicclams · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This reminds me of a story I heard about an alien who came to earth and decided to take the contents of the earthling internet home with him, so converted all the data into one long integer, and expressed it as a fraction, then pulled out a rod of known length, carefully measured it, and cut it to the appropriate fractional proportion of the whole.

      When asked how they were going to retrieve that information when he got home, he replied, "That's for the engineers to figure out."

  4. No way by CDOS_CDOS+run · · Score: 3, Funny

    [tinfoilhat]I am sticking to my 5.25" floppy, it's the only reliable way to backup data.[/tinfoilhat]

    1. Re:No way by escher · · Score: 4, Funny

      Let me guess: You then attach all your floppies to a whiteboard with magnets?

      Well, how else is he supposed to keep all the bits from falling off?

  5. Reading the information? by nobuzz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Researchers say that the greatest difficulty will be with the reading of information.

    How the hell can they tell it's there if they can't even read it?

    1. Re:Reading the information? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Elaine: Can it cut that thin?

      Kramer: Oh, I've cut slices so thin, I couldn't even see them.

      Elaine: How did you know you cut it?

      Kramer: Well, I guess I just assumed.

  6. Great. Just great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm already going batty trying to not lose these fucking tiny cartriges for the Nintendo DS. Now I'm going to have to keep track of a 10cm molecular-width wire and find myself losing them like pencils as they fall out of my pocket.

    I have seen the future and it is inconvenient

  7. Would you trust someone who... by PornMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    thinks that CDs use magnetism to report on new tech?

    "The microwires become diminutive substitutes for the CD-ROM, given that information can be stored magnetically on them, as with CDs."

    1. Re:Would you trust someone who... by operagost · · Score: 3, Funny

      Pure crap. I have proven through experimentation that CDs are magnetic. I took a recently-written CD-R and rubbed the bottom vigorously for ten minutes with a permanent magnet. Sure enough, it became unreadable. Not only that, but the bottom isn't shiny anymore.

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  8. Sounds like my backup strategy. by Trigun · · Score: 5, Funny

    Backup is easy! The restore is the tricky part.

  9. Bit vs buye by prakslash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the article:

    The researchers calculate that a 10 cm long microwire can carry out 10 million divisions or cells and in each one of these a byte can be stored. In order to store the byte, each one of these cells is magnetised in one orientation or the other.

    Don't they mean a "bit"? How can you store a whole byte with just two magnetic orientations?

    1. Re:Bit vs buye by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They also say that CDs store things magnetically. This source is somewhat questionable.

    2. Re:Bit vs buye by LurkerXXX · · Score: 4, Insightful
      What about the heading for the paragraph?

      10 Gigabytes in 10 cm long

      followed later by:

      The researchers calculate that a 10 cm long microwire can carry out 10 million divisions or cells and in each one of these a byte can be stored. In order to store the byte, each one of these cells is magnetised in one orientation or the other.

      Pardon my math, but isn't 10 million bytes 10 Megabytes, not Gigabytes? Isn't the articles claim of data density off a thousand fold?

    3. Re:Bit vs buye by Sc00ter · · Score: 3, Informative
      "CD-RW's work by magnetically changing the surface of the disk. "

      Where did you hear that?

      From How Stuff Works

      "To create a rewriteable CD (CD-RW), you need a dye layer that can be changed back and forth between opaque and transparent. This page discusses the special material that CD-RW's use. The material has the property that it can change its transparency depending on temperature. Heated to one temperature, the material cools to a transparent state; heated to another temperature, it cools to a cloudy state. By changing the power (and therefore the temperature) of the writing laser, the data on the CD can be changed, or "rewritten.""

  10. Heinlein came up with this... by Theaetetus · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Years back, he hypothesized that future aliens contacting us might bring along their entire libraries on a single piece of titanium. Doesn't matter what size: just mark one end with A, one end with B, and make a notch somewhere in the middle.
    Measure A/B, convert the resulting fraction into a hexadecimal string, and there's your data.

    Only problem is that your microscope has to be really good.

    -T

    1. Re:Heinlein came up with this... by Have+Blue · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This was also invented by Frank Herbert- Dune featured something called shigawire, which sounds very similar to what's described in TFA.

  11. From TFA: by ivan256 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The researchers calculate that a 10 cm long microwire can carry out 10 million divisions or cells and in each one of these a byte can be stored. In order to store the byte, each one of these cells is magnetised in one orientation or the other.

    Assuming they didn't mean "bits" when they said "bytes", that only sounds like 10 megabytes to me... Not gigabytes. If they meant bits instead of bytes, which seems likely given the description, that's only 1.25 megabytes in 10 cm...

  12. It's probably quantum. by Scrameustache · · Score: 5, Funny

    How the hell can they tell it's there if they can't even read it?

    If 10GB of MP3s are written on a wire, and there is no reader to play it. Does it make a sound?

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    1. Re:It's probably quantum. by Smidge204 · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, but the RIAA will sue you anyway!

      =Smidge=

  13. I have unlimited storage! by erroneus · · Score: 3, Funny

    I just save everything to /dev/null and I never have a problem with storage space.

  14. In other words by b1t+r0t · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The development comes in the form of a flexible microwire, 10 micrometers thick and 10cm long

    There's already a name for this. It's called tape.

    (Tape storage started with metal-wire recorders, but esentially they're the same idea, only it's harder to strangle someone with magtape.)

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  15. Since when did CD's store data MAGNETICALLY?! by vivin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    the microwires become diminutive substitutes for the CD-ROM, given that information can be stored magnetically on them, as with CDs.

    Since when did CD's start storing data magnetically? I thought it was optically? Where can I buy these new-fangled magnetic CD's?!

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    1. Re:Since when did CD's store data MAGNETICALLY?! by David+Horn · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've got an even better idea - why don't we take several of these new magnetic CDs and stick them in a small metal box that you have permanently inside the computer?

      Excuse me, I'm off to the patent office...

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  16. Uh... basic mistake. by ultramk · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the article: The researchers calculate that a 10 cm long microwire can carry out 10 million divisions or cells and in each one of these a byte can be stored. In order to store the byte, each one of these cells is magnetised in one orientation or the other.

    When they say "byte" here, they seem to mean "bit". (for the script kiddies, there are 8 bits to the byte) Also, they're referring to "10 million divisions" not "10 billion divisions".

    So it wouldn't be 10 gigabytes, it would be more like 1.2 megabytes, or roughly 122k/cm. To store 10 gigabytes, it would have to be over 838m long, or over 2750 feet.

    Frankly, I'm not horribly impressed.

    Not to mention, this is just in theory. It hasn't actually been done yet.

    m-

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    1. Re:Uh... basic mistake. by Gulik · · Score: 4, Funny

      Frankly, I'm not horribly impressed.

      But, he's got technology that, once he gets it to work, will be very nearly useless! How can you not be impressed?

  17. Information Storage by SeanTobin · · Score: 4, Funny

    I prefer to store all my information by sending it into a black hole. As with the microwires, reading it tends to be a bit difficult.

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  18. You mean Irrational Number... by aepervius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Number which cannot be expressed as a mean of a division of two integer. For example PI, Square Root 2, Exp (1) etc... Those numbe do exists. but they do Not belong to the rational ensemble.

    For kicker : |N Which read , natural integer ensemble N is included in positive and negative integer ensemble Z , which is included in rational ensemble Q, which is included in real ensemble R which is included into complex ensemble C at which point a therom (completness theorem?) says there is no ensemble in which C is included and is "greater".

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  19. Change of Venue Requested by Stanistani · · Score: 4, Funny

    This innovation should have been covered in Wired .

  20. Re:Lengths of Wire...? by nsayer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Go back in time. Wire predated tape, actually. The original dictation machines were wire recorders. Wire recorders are still used for flight data and cockpit voice recorders in commercial aircraft (though they are being slowly phased out and replaced, I believe, with flash memory).

    Another novel moment in the history of wire recorders: one of the first VTRs (used at the BBC) was a linear "tape" recorder. Bandwidth being proportional to the speed of the media across the head, they moved the "tape" at amazingly high speed. The only "tape" that would stand up to the stress was actually made of steel - making it more like flat wire than what we think of as tape. Couple the weight of the tape with the amount of it you needed and you wound up with huge 10 foot diameter spools of the stuff. The machine was also quite dangerous - if the tape broke, it would hurl fragments of steel that bore a not-so-passing resembelence to razor blades.

    Fortunately, helical scanning was invented, which allows the heads to fly across the tape while the tape itself moves relatively slowly. But now we're drifting off topic.

  21. Finally WORN drives at last! by DanielMarkham · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, for one, have been waiting for the Write-Once, Read Never drives.

    Let's face it: half the stuff on your drive you're never going to use again anyway. Might as well save it on a data hair so it will not be there when you don't need it.

    And these things will be easy to design to follow moore's law. Every 18 months, just put a new label on the package.

  22. Sounds like my dating strategy! by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Finding women is easy! Talking to them is the tricky part.

  23. Re:The Horror! by narcc · · Score: 3, Funny

    What next...vacuum tubes?

    You bet! Except they'll be nanovacuum tubes -- The problem, of course, is changing them when they burn out...