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Canadian Government Going Big Brother?

Eh-Wire writes "If this article by Canadian privacy expert Michael Geist is any indication of what the Canadian Government has in mind for the Canadian Internet surfing public, then it looks like the Canadian public should be concerned. This does not look good!"

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  1. Seems to be a worldwide trend. by wk633 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In Russia, ISPs have to aborb the cost of providing monitoring to the FSB.

    In the US, it's called CALEA (among other things).

  2. nice... but no meat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Where's the proposed bills that would bring this into law? The journalist makes no mention of it.

    Seems to be more along the lines of bitching about VoIP services. The Canadian privacy commission would never allow this to go through.

  3. Re:From what I've learned from living in Canada. by Ian_Bailey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, there's plenty of political movements that happen in Canada (gay marriages, legalizing pot...). However, they aren't as big, mainly because the public gets what it wants.

    The main party that's been in power for more than a decade, the Liberals, are famous for waffling. This isn't really their fault. It's because we Canadians waffle so much (we don't want missle defense! but we still want a business realtionship with the US!). The Liberal party usually doesn't commit to anything, untill an opinion poll is released. When the poll was released last week that 80%+ of Canadians were against the missle defense shield, and with mounting pressure in the Parliment to show their hand, the Liberals had to give in (sort of...).

    Especially now that there is a minority government, the public will be mighty pissed at the party that causes a re-election. So the Liberals are being very careful to be as popular as possible right now.

    As long as our please-the-people Liberals are in power, I don't think you'll see too much activism. Now, if the Conservatives or NDP got the power... then you'd hear something.

  4. Re:There go my plans by demachina · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Pretty sure there is no safe place to go in the world anymore to escape the rising tide of fascist police states.

    If you've been following the news the last few days on the secret CIA Rendition program, the U.S. has bestowed upon itself the right to pretty much snatch anyone, anywhere on the globe, blindfold you, cut your clothes of with razors, stick a tranquilizer up your ass, put you in a private jet and fly you to various places to be tortured. One of which is Uzbekistan which apparently favors torturing you by putting parts of your body in boiling water.

    If sometime later they deduce they made a mistake and you are in fact not a terrorist they just drop you in the middle of nowhere in Albania and say oops. One guy was disappeared for 5 months and had to find his family in Lebanon after they left Gemany thinking he had abandoned them.

    When they pick you up they pretty much tell you that you are completely out of range of any judicial system or due process. They tell you they will take you places where you can be tortured or killed, and no one will ever know what happened to you.

    How do you spell Hypocrisy to rant about Saddam's arbitrary arrests and torture, and making that a justification for the invasion. At least Saddam mostly stuck to torturing people in Iraq. The U.S. will snatch and torture anyone, anywhere in the world, often flaunting the most basic sovereignty of the nations where they are operating.

    I think at this point since we can't escape it, its rapidly becoming time to fight it, hard.

    I should add Rendition started during the reign of Bush the First or Clinton, Bush the Second has just been going to town with it. It does show that neither of the screwed up parties that run America have the most basic understand of what "Freedom and Democracy" actually means. First off it means you shouldn't be snatched off the street and tortured in to a confession when you may not be guilt of anything. In America we have this little thing called a constitution, due process, and civil rights but our corrupt government seems to have forgotten. They seem to need an attitude adjustment.

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    @de_machina
  5. Re:There go my plans by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is a lot more information out there. In my previous post I didnt have time to post all I wanted, I really need to do a write up - but I think you may be interested in the following information. If you arent already aware of bushbodycount then you should take alook at it. The preffered methods of dealing with people in the Bush circle is through plane crashes:

    Then look below to see the Bush Family Tree - take a look at just the names that I pulled from the family tree that many should recognize. Funny how you had no idea how really well connected that family is. ....

    This is only the deaths directly relating to plane crashes... for the full list check out the site - but since it seems to be down for maintenance - please look to the google cache of the site:

    http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:MmEcc-eEUZs J: bushbodycount.com/+&hl=en

    The Site is down - so from google cache:

    Paul Wellstone

    He was a vocal opponent of the Bush administration and the only real progressive in the Senate. Polls showed that his popularity surged when he voted to oppose the war on Iraq. His victory in the Senate race was a foregone conclusion.

    Senator Wellstone, his wife Sheila, daughter Marcia, three of his staff and both pilots were killed when his small plane went down in Evelyth, Minnesota, on October 25, 2002.

    Governor Mel Carnahan

    In the midst of a heated race for the Senate against John Ashcroft, the Governor died in a plane crash on October 16, 2000. His death affected Democrats in two ways - it would hurt their chances of seizing control of the US Senate, and it would strongly impact the Presidential race between Al Gore and George W. Bush. Said St. Louis University political scientist Ken Warren, "There will be a sympathy vote, but that won't be enough to allow him to win. "I don't think the race will be very close. It's over." As we know now, Ashcroft lost to a dead man. Carnahan was elected by a landslide.

    Dan Rocco

    He died on April 1, 2002, in a plane crash in Gainesville, Georgia. He was an executive vice president at ChoicePoint, the firm that gained infamy with their faulty "felons" list supplied to Katherine Harris during the 2000 election in Florida. As a result of this list, thousands of voters (mostly African-American voters) were wrongly identified as felons and purged from the rolls.

    Jake Horton

    He was the senior ice-president of Gulf Power, a subsidiary of Southern Company, a cohort of Enron in the energy industry, and a major contributer to the Bush agenda. According to reporter Gregory Palast, Horton knew of the company's appalling accounting practices, and "... had no doubt about its illegal campaign contributions to Florida politicans - he'd made the payments himself. In April of 1989 Horton decided to come clean with state officials, and reserved the company jet to go confront company officials. Ten minutes after takeoff the jet exploded.

    Amiram Nir

    He was a former Israeli agent who was in Jerusalem with George Bush during Iran Contra. He went under the assumed name of Pat Weber. Nir was scheduled to testify to the Senate subcommittee and it was feared he would reveal the truth. He perished when his aircraft was shot down with missiles from the helicopter of a man called Gene Tatum, 25-year CIA deep cover agent.

    Senator John Tower

    He was appointed by the Reagan/Bush Administration to chair the bipartisan committee to investigate the Iran/Contra scandals. He directed the Tower Report and had all the Iran Contra documents that told the real story. He was killed in an airplane crash later in Georgia in 1991. Also killed was his daughter, Marian.

    Mohammed Zia al-huk

    Dictator of Pakistan, and knew all about Iran/Contra, the training, funding, and arming of narco-terrorists like Osama bin Laden. In August 1988, the same day George Bush got the Republican nomination, his plane crashed into the ground with all engines running. The