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Intel in Antitrust Trouble in Japan

vincecate writes "The Japan Fair Trade Commission has ruled that Intel violated antitrust laws in Japan. Giving customers discounts based on the volume of your products they purchased is good business. However, Intel was adjusting customer discounts based on the volume of competing products they purchased, which is not legal. After the ruling, AMD responded saying, "We encourage governments around the globe to ensure that their markets are not being harmed as well". While Intel responded saying, "Intel continues to believe its business practices are both fair and lawful."

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  1. What!? by kunwon1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Intel? Antitrust!? I don't believe it! I'd sooner believe that Linus Torvalds switched to a new OS!

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  2. Standard PR response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While Intel responded saying, "Intel continues to believe its business practices are both fair and lawful."

    That's how PR hacks are taught to respond. When, for example, your CEO is stealing money, your PRish role is to go out and with a straight face say: "The core Value of our company is Honesty. We will introduce a Business Codex to emphasize our commitment."

  3. Woo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this mean that we get to start referring to Intel as a "convicted monopolist" in every /. article about the company, just like we do for Micro$oft??

    That's awesome!

  4. Re:Give me a rational reason why this is a problem by dhbiker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think you missed the point slightly, it goes something like this:

    Intel: "if you buy 1 chip it costs $500"
    Intel: "But if you buy 10 it costs $450 per chip"
    Intel: "If company X wants to buy 10 then it will cost them $480 per chip because we found out they bought an athlon chip last week"

    THAT is not on!!

  5. Re:So carrots are legal, sticks are not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh regarding Intel's comment that it "... continues to believe its business practices are both fair and lawful.". It might just be legal in some countries but how is it fair to use your dominant position to prevent other companies from being able to compete with you?

    Statements like this are not meant to be factual. They are meant to influence opinions. "continues to believe" is a phrase that should warn you that a politician or a company is lying to you. Always replace it with "persists in claiming".

  6. Re:Give me a rational reason why this is a problem by BackInIraq · · Score: 5, Informative

    Can someone tell me honestly what's wrong here? Intel are the ones who have control over their product. They get to sell their products and define how much it sells for. Why are governments getting involved?

    Obviously if a company is buying more of a competitor's products then they're buying less of yours, so your own are more expensive to them because they are buying in lower quantities. that is simple grade school economics."


    The problem arises when somebody tries to use their position as the established leader to keep other companies from establishing a marketshare, thus using their dominance to maintain a monopoly. Not as much of a problem with Intel as it would be with a company like Microsoft (as AMD is a very strong competitor), but still not a good idea to let bad practices get started.

    Again, basing your prices off how many of YOUR chips they buy is okay. What this alleges is taht they are also factoring in how many of the competitor's chips they buy, which is not. How many AMD chips a company buys is none of Intel's business, and shouldn't affect prices.

    Simple example. Company A makes 100,000 computers, and uses Intel for 50,000 and AMD for 50,000. They should be charged the exact same rate as Company B, which makes only 50,000 computers but uses Intel for all of them. The accusation is that Intel would instead charge Company B a lower rate, because while they purchase the same volume they don't purchase any from AMD.

    As somebody else said, the carrot is legal, the stick is not.

  7. I'll give you an example... by jpiggot · · Score: 5, Funny
    Some people seem to be confused; let me help to explain. If I liked listening to "Pennywise" and bought all their CD's, and Ashley Simpson found out about it and charged me EXTRA to purchase her limited edition concert DVD with bonus interviews, AND if we both lived in Japan...I'd legally be allowed to force her to commit suicide in the town square. With a kitchen knife.

    It's a rich and vibrant culture those Japanese have, I tell you.