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Star Wars Episode 3 PG-13?
geekboxjockey writes "This story hints at the next Star Wars being a bit more of a mature themed movie: "[The film] is much more dark...more emotional. It's much more of a tragedy," adds Lucas. "...it will be the first Star Wars that's a PG-13.""There's also a new trailer airing during tonight's The O.C., so you can use that as an excuse to watch FOX teen drama. Fortunately for me, Summer is the only excuse I need. And maybe Captain Oats.
PG-13 just means that there might be some space girl in a bikini
American ratings don't make sense anyways. Sure Violence is fine, People getting shot is ok too.
But as soon as just 1 piece of skin is shown or someone says "hell" instead of "heck" the decency police barges in and stamps your movie as UNFIT for general public.
American kids are overprotected and eventually have no insight on the true horror's out there.
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You do know, don't you, that Episode 6 was originally titled Revenge of the Jedi, but Lucas changed it before release because "Jedi don't take revenge."
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In all honesty, I really don't understand all of this bickering about the new movies. Have you seen Return of the Jedi, Ewoks, annoying little sh*ts, with their stupid little feel good dancing. How about the predicable way everyone gets out of a bad situation in the old movies, time and time again. If people re-watched the originals with the same critical eye they had for the new ones, they would hate them too.
They are just movies, a lot of fun to watch, fun plot, and cult classics in their own right, but please don't put them on a pedestal.
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It has been many years since Lucas had any sense of perspective. Return of the Jedi was arguably his first steps in his long journey towards Craptown, Oblivia where he has decided to take up permanent residence.
If Lucas really wanted to win back the fans, he wouldn't have propagated new and existing defacements of the original trilogy, such as not returning the Greedo scene to the original narrative, or replacing Darth Vader in the Return of the Jedi celebration scene with that mullet-wearing, no-talent hack for the sake of "continuity." No, George will make the films he wants to make, regardless of the opinions of the public at large, which is in of itself a noble thing in filmmaking. But apparently no one close to him wishes to risk telling Lucas that he has no clothes.
As an interesting side-note, the original Star Wars was slated to get a G rating. Lucas was already worried about having his film seen as kiddie fodder and the G rating really bothered him. So left in the scene of Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru's remains burning in the fire when Luke finds them. That was sufficiently gruesome to get the rating raised to PG.
I wonder if Lucas's shooting for a PG-13 rating with Revenge of the Sith is supposed to be some kind of tribute to what he did with A New Hope.
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As a member of three member household who doesn't have cable, spends 5+ hours a week gaming together, goes to the Comic book store on new comic book day, and generally geeks out everyday, I think you're dismissing The OC prematurely.
We have someone tape it for us every week and we all love it. It generally has material relevant to geeks in every show, and it's a great way to start conversations with those women you so easily disdain. It may in fact not be for you, but I think more geeks than you realize are regulars.
Now, as for the Spiderman-inspired kiss... *groan*
Wow... 'at least a month,' eh? Man up, Nancy, and just don't see it. Whether you see it on opening day or a month later, you're still another 10 bucks in Lucas' pocket. Also, what you're suggesting is not a 'boycott.' Save the word 'boycott' for things that actually matter and save your money by renting a good movie on May 19th. May I suggest Malcolm X?
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if memory serves, someone in the lucas camp did say re: episode 1: "you'll have to wait six years to really appreciate this movie".
having been throughly spoiled on ep 3, i now know what he meant.
you had to see the galaxy (and anakin) as they were before the darkness to see how major the changes were:
you had to see the bureaucratically hobbled, glacially slow to act republic to understand why it was even possible for the empire to be born.
you had to see the "whee! now this is podracing!" anakin to truly see how far the fall was to the "i don't 'fear' the dark side... i embrace it" vader. `
episode 1 really cannot stand alone. it is the prologue both to its own trilogy and to the overall saga. the events in it seem minor and unimportant... except that you know what things like 'chancellor palpatine' will lead to. or when qui-gon said, "anakin skywalker... meet obi-wan kenobi"; the entire theater collectively draws a breath at that point because they know where and how these two men will end their friendship and their lives. and that was just with knowing what would happen in 4-6. now that we (are about to) have seen all of it (obi-wan crying out in frustration "you were the chosen one!" from the new trailer sticks in one's head) we can go back to ep 1 and see the shadows forming.
yes, jar-jar is annoying. what, the universe of long ago and far away doesn't have annoying critters? besides, that's the irony - that jar-jar helped palpatine to power. yes, anakin's annoying, whiny, selfish, and clunky in "love scenes" with padme. that's part of his story and part of the reason he could fall to the dark side - palpy plays on his desire to be more powerful and his fear of losing/failing those he cares about.
if anakin were the uber-cool, suave, humble-yet-powerful jedi people seem to want, what could palps offer him to tempt him to the dark side? moreover, why would he accept? the great irony of the star wars story is that anakin falls to evil because of love. because he wants that power so he can keep those he loves with him. and then once he knows he's lost padme forever, he fully accepts his role as darth vader, taking the only power and control he can, in bitterness, guilt and probably not a little self-hatred.
and this is why luke was able to redeem vader. anakin was finally able to save someone - his own son - and not with the dark side of the force, and not even with the force at all, but by merely making a choice, a choice that he probably thought was lost to him forever.
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Let me know if I'm over-reaching with this, but I'm a film student and it comes naturally.
I took the introduction of the fact that the force was active in people through midichlorians to be indicative of the level of knowledge the Jedi's and the Jedi Council had about themselves at the time, compared to the folk-lore-like manner in which Luke was taught by Ben and Yoda. It seems to make it look like the lessons learned in the first-made trilogy comment on the lessons taught in the second-made trilogy. Something was definitely wrong, in that the Jedi Order failed and teaching of the use of the force fell back to a more natural religious, rather than scientific, state.
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