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European Piracy Crackdowns

DigitumDei writes "The British Phonographic Industry has been busy over the last half year. Their recent success which netted them £50,000 in out of court settlements is certainly not going to be the end of it with the UK courts forcing 6 ISP's to release information on a further 31 file sharers. The ISPs have 14 days to comply. And once located will be offered the opporunity to settle out of court. 'We would particularly advise parents to check what their children are doing on the internet and make sure that they are not breaking the law by filesharing illegally,' said Geoff Taylor, BPI General Counsel." And in other news, the oldest and largest ISP in Sweden, Bahnnof was the subject of a raid that netted what looks to be the biggest results in Europe ever; as well papper writes "The Swedish organization Antipiratbyrån, which has nothing to do with Swedish goverment, recently got hacked. This was both revenge for and an attempt to stop similair raids like the one who took place this friday, against the ISP Banhof. During the raid several FTP-servers were seized. On the hacked site the responsible group, AUH, posts some private e-mails about an alleged informer and makes threats to release more information and of course there is the mandatory braging. The site is located at Antripiratbyran with a mirror elsewhere and a translated verison also online (although it seems unreachable at the moment). "

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  1. Boycott by Laglorden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Appenrently they have the right break in and look through other peoples stuff if they think there are some "pirated" things there.

    What happens if I don't want them looking through my private mail/pictures/documents?

    They will not stop this stupid behavior unless we hit them where it really hurts, their wallets.

    So, don't buy another CD, don't see another film, dont rent another DVD and don't buy any programs from the companys sponsoring "Antipiratbyrån" until they stop this foolishness!

    1. Re:Boycott by datadriven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I agree with what you're saying, I don't see it happening. People are sheep. Big business (e.g. MPAA, RIAA) will continue to take advantage of them because they don't know/care how to stand up to those institutions.

  2. Good Grief... by Robotron23 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    'We would particularly advise parents to check what their children are doing on the internet and make sure that they are not breaking the law by filesharing illegally,'

    Its amazing that government authorities still aren't aware that in most cases, its pretty damn clear to a child (over the age of 11 anyway) whether they are filesharing illegally or not. They should be responsible for checking their actions, not the parents.

    1. Re:Good Grief... by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 2, Insightful
      its pretty damn clear to a child (over the age of 11 anyway) whether they are filesharing illegally or not. They should be responsible for checking their actions, not the parents.

      Parents are legally liable for the actions of their children. Just because the child knows/doesn't know that downloading copyrighted material is illegal doesn't release their parents from responsibility.

    2. Re:Good Grief... by SimReg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Funny, I always thought parents were there to raise their kids, teach them what is right and wrong (including legal and illegal), and correct them when they do something wrong/illegal.

      Any parent who lets their kids continue doing illegal, wrong, or hurtful things is not parenting. So the government encouraging parents to actually be involved with their kids lives is a Good Thing.

    3. Re:Good Grief... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I was gonna mod you as flamebait but I think it would better illustrate my point to respond.

      Specifically, you group 'illegal', 'wrong' and 'hurtful' things together.

      These things are not the same, nor are they mutually inclusive [or exclusive, for that matter].

      Aside from being utterly relative [in each instance], they are are fully loaded and completely toothless.

      As a parent of two children [8 and 5], I can say I regularly teach them what the law is [while often breaking it myself - "Ooo, look at the fearless one posting anon!"] but I never equate 'law' and 'right' or 'wrong' in the same sentence.

      The law is a changeable thing - you need only look at the disgusting [but legal] attrocities that take place on a daily basis to see where I'm coming from on that one.

      Similarly, I teach my children empathy so they understand that it's 'mostly' 'wrong' to 'hurt' people but, sometimes, it's the only way.

      Both attend weekly Karate lessons [Tang So Do, in case you wonder] so they can defend themselves - after all, what do you do when someone is trying to 'hurt' you for reasons they feel are just?

      Personally, I think your views cloud the issues and serve no useful purpose whatsoever.

      HTH

  3. Going underground... by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This will just reinforce the new "digital divide" - those who know how to bypass anti-copy controls and exchange files anonymously, and the others who end up paying for stuff. The hackers/crackers are always one step ahead; all the **AA/BPI can do is make it a little more difficult for J.Random Surfer. The easy days of Napster are long gone, and Kazaa isn't what it used to be.

    In fact, cutting out 90% of the activity may well satisfy The Man. I can't see that it's worth spending millions chasing down people swapping files among their friends via FTP, private newsgroups etc.

    --
    When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
  4. Re:They're finally going after individual infringe by wild_berry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Individual infringers are somebody else's problem:

    They sued the mp3 codec clones, but I didn't speak out because I use ogg vorbis,
    They sued the pirates of Windows, and I didn't speak out, 'cause I use Linux,
    They sued over CSS, but I didn't speak out because it wasn't in my country,
    They sued the music and movie downloaders, but I didn't speak out because I used a different filesharing network,
    They sued me, but there was no-one left to speak out for me.

  5. Re:They're finally going after individual infringe by wild_berry · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sorry for that, I'm trying to make the point that there should be public outcry if the public believe it is being robbed of its fair use rights. It isn't right to let individual people suffer because they're not you.

    I'm not suggesting that we should burn our money so everything can be free. I'm more pragmatic than that. Further, I think that legal methods should be used to bring justice where the law is broken, but there remain questions about the way in which the industry associations have gone about suing filesharers.

  6. Numbers game by Groo+Wanderer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK people, this is a running joke and a scare tactic. If the population of England is about 52 million (according to a quick google search), and the latest round of suits targets 31 people according to the story, and if a mere 1% of Britons file share, the numbers look bleak.

    52,000,000/100 = 520,000
    520,000/31 ~= 16.7K

    Hmm, what are the odds of getting hit by a bus? Now, if the revent Slashdot stories about Britonss being the largest group of downloaders out there means that there are more than 1% downloading, the numbers get worse for the industry.

    Besides suing your customer base not being the brightest idea on the planet, just ask SCO, the odds of them doing anything appreciable are laughable. Look at eDonkey for example. The RIAA has sued thousands of users in the US, and it is putting such a dent in..... never mind.

    This is a headline grap people, and with each headline they grab the tool gets less and less effective. In the US, rounds of new suits barely make a third tier story at HardOCP.

    My prediction: News headlines, people fearing big brother, thousands of files purged. Millions shrug and go on with their lives.

    Next round: Page 4 news headlines, people mildly nervous, hundreds of files purged. Millions shrug and go on with their lives.

    Round 3: Covered in niche publications, no one gives a rats ass, tens of files purged. Millions shrug and go on with their lives.

    Round 4: Niche publications have better things to cover, cattle mutilations and CIA microwave mind control lasers trump the latest file sharing atrocities. 7 files purged and a grandmother in Cardiff wets herself. Millions shrug and go on with their lives.

    -Charlie

  7. Re:Translation by Nehle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, since link and the hack is publicly available, it doesn't take more than a mouse click to get the stuff anyways, even if I DID leave it out/censor it. This is just a translation right of. If someone abuses the information herein, they could've done so either way, especially since hardly anyone but swedes, who don't need the translation, will find use for the sensitive info.