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MS Files for Broad XML/Word-processing Patent in NZ

Unloaded writes "In the New Zealand Herald, Adam Gifford has written an article blasting Microsoft for burying the New Zealand Intellectual Property Office in paperwork. One example is Patent 525484, accepted by the office and now open for objections until the end of May, which says Microsoft invented and owns the process whereby a word-processing document stored in a single XML file may be manipulated by applications that understand XML."

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  1. XML by sandstorming · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a really really good explanation on what XML is and why it works here.

    The W3C states though that:

    XML was developed by an XML Working Group (originally known as the SGML Editorial Review Board) formed under the auspices of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) in 1996. It was chaired by Jon Bosak of Sun Microsystems with the active participation of an XML Special Interest Group (previously known as the SGML Working Group) also organized by the W3C. The membership of the XML Working Group is given in an appendix. Dan Connolly served as the Working Group's contact with the W3C.

    I understand that microsoft aren't claiming to have invented the technology, but it really annoys me that they are trying to patent a use, and a small extract of a software they had only a small part in developing!

  2. Full patent text by ta+bu+shi+da+yu · · Score: 4, Informative

    In case anyone is interested and wants to be fully informed what the patent actually says (so rare a quality in a slashdot reader I find these days), then here is the abstract:

    Patent 525484

    A computer-readable medium having computer-executable components comprises a first component for reading a word-processor document stored as a single XML file; a second component that utilizes an XSD (XML Schema Definition) for interpreting the word-processor document, and
    a third component for performing an action on the word-processor document.

    The computer readable medium can further comprise a validating component configured to validate the word-processor document or a fourth component for displaying the word-processor document. The XSD represents a word-processor's rich formatting and the XSD is published and is available to applications other than the word-processor. The word-processor document can include hints to applications that understand XML.

    The action may be selected from parsing, modifying, reading, and creating the word-processor document and may be fully recreating the word-processor document according to a word processor's set of features.

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  3. Re:Patent the idea of patenting other peoples idea by R.Caley · · Score: 5, Informative
    Patent the idea of patenting other peoples ideas;

    There is an unbelievable amount of prior art.

    Tangentially relevent: one news story recently which seems to have slipped past /. was the decision that in the EU non-published but `everyone knows that' information can count as prior art to kill a patent. (it was a biotech patent, but clearly the argument has wider applications).

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  4. Re:Interesting by jrumney · · Score: 4, Informative
    It would seem MS is getting patents like these in a delevoped country that has no strong competitors - nor a very strong head when it comes to things IT.

    Perhaps you have hit on their strategy. Many countries will grant automatic patents once a patent is recognized in 7 WIPO countries (though most will require at least 2 of the 7 to be US, Japan or EU). So maybe they're looking for the easiest way in through the back door.

  5. Re:Why the fight? by terryfunk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft in no way invented XML. Dave Hollander invented XML.
    http://www.mhxml.com/myinfo/MyBio.htm

  6. Re:Why the fight? by l3v1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well they did invent XML so I dont see what the problem is?

    The problem is guys like you think this way and think they know and that they are right. Patent office clerks probably have about the same amount of information when accept patents like this as you do: a bit below nothing.

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  7. Re:Patent the idea of patenting other peoples idea by vinsci · · Score: 4, Informative
    More information on this case here:

    Landmark Victory in World's First Case Against Biopiracy!!


    European Patent Office Upholds Decision to Revoke Neem Patent

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  8. Next up: U.S. Patent Office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The same application has been filed at the USPTO as publication number 20040210818.

  9. Re:Oh, great. by JohnFluxx · · Score: 4, Informative

    Gnumeric's .gnumeric file is a single xml file that also has 3rd party programs that can generate the xml file and manipulate it.