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BitTorrent May Prove Too Good to Quash
gollum123 writes "There is an article on washignton post on bittorrent where the author discusses why BitTorrent is here to stay. According to the author it is being increasingly used to distribute software and entertainment legally. It also mentions that in BitTorrent, unlike many other file-sharing programs, legitimate use doesn't amount to a token minority. It's central to this program's existence. It concludes by saying that the MPAA may be able to drive BitTorrent movie downloads into what Green called "the dark corners of the Internet," but this program isn't going to go away. It might, however, be just what movie studios and record labels need to market and distribute their own content efficiently on the Web."
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Just as long as admins remember to lose those logs... I just *hate* hardware failures...
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Try googling for "whatyouwant filetype:torrent" or just "filetype:torrent torrent". You'll find zillions of trackers out there.
BitTorrent isn't going away.
Trolling is a art,
Sources are all over. Just do a google search for torrent, and you have pages and pages of results. I use
m y fav: http://www.btefnet.org t =8690
http://isohunt.com/
http://www.novatina.com/
or a shit load here:
http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?
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This is a good starting point, even if it isn't entirely up-to-date.
suprnova.org was used mostly for illegal content, this is about LEGAL uses for bittorrent.
Check out legaltorrents.com
Not that I don't recognize that BitTorrent is currently used for many legitimate applications (whereas that was extremely difficult to argue with a straight face with P2P), but I think this statement is a little overboard. I'd say that, currently, "legitimate" use of BitTorrent is a "token minority" of its use. The vast, vast majority is pirated software, pirated movies, and pirated TV shows (and, to a lesser extent, music, just because of the nature of BitTorrent being more conveniently applicable to small amounts of large files, rather than large amounts of small files).
Anyone not admitting that at this particular point in time is lying to themselves.
Maybe that was true when SuperNova and LokiTorrent were around. We are sorta heading back into the "time before torrents" when stuff wasn't easily available on a huge online database available on the web.
Have you take a split second to look at the legitimate uses of torrents recently? easytree, Etree, etc? HUGE repositories of legal music for download?
It's obvious to me that you haven't.
Well, if you dont agree, dont click the "I agree" button. Simple as that.
With the new version, 4.0, now available
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http://www.bittorrent.com/index.html
for both Windows and Linux (MacOS real soon now), it's a lot easier for both users and network administrators to manage the protocol's bandwidth hungry ways. It's so much easier now that I think that you'll be able to talk organizations, which have banned its use, on the grounds that it eats up too much bandwidth, into rethinking their positions.
Heck, for that matter, I think that since BitTorrent bandwidth use is now mindlessly simple to manage, it will become a popular tool for businesses that need to move large data files back and forth between offices.
For more on all this see:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1775223,00
Steven
I'll post one use of Bittorrent that is:
- Perfectly legitimate
- Backed by a large corporation
- Had heavy usage.
World of Warcraft.
Their open beta (over a gig) was distributed by BitTorrent. The larger patches are all BitTorrent. This alleviates pressure on their patch servers for that rush on the first day after a patch, so we can all get back to our addiction faster.
Blizzard is pretty damned mainstream.
It might, however, be just what movie studios and record labels need to market and distribute their own content efficiently on the Web
Now why would it be in their best interest to distribute movies and music so that everyone else could get it without compensating them for it? Is this more of the silly "free advertising" argument? Seriously, how would you expect them to get paid if they did that? I guess a recording artist is expected to spend three months renting out a studio and equipment, just to have the music blasted onto Bittorrent where he won't get paid for his work.
Are you telling me the Bittorrent system has DRM or some other way of preventing people from getting the material without paying for it? If not, is there a way to graft on such a system? Only then would studios even consider using it. Otherwise, it's silly wishful thinking on the part of people who are, shall we say, used to the convenience of downloading whatever they want and so invent reasons for everything to be on P2P.
You might want to forward and use a set of 10 consecutive ports starting from an arbitrary number between 50000 and 60000. Some ISPs use packet shaping or throttling on the standard ports. A number of Other people I know have noticed a marked increase after following this advice.
Actually this is not at all how it works, BitTorrent downloads chunks of the file in any order. The 90% you reffer to isn't the first 90% of the file it's just 90% of the file, the reason this happens is the seeder may disconnect before giving out a complete copy of the file and the sum of the stuff the connected peers have is only 90% of the file.
Who the hell modded you up?
That's just wrong, sorry. Bitttorrent grabs bits and pieces of the file from points all throughout the file.
Here's how to prove this to yourself: download a song or an episode of a TV show or something, and try to play it when the progress bar hits 50%. If you can make it even 5% of the way through the file before getting to a chunk of information you don't have, I'd be impressed.
In fact, the bittorent protocol is specificaly designed to send different pieces of the file to different users, to maximize the effect of sharing bandwidth.
I don't know where you're getting your music but the majority of the CDs I've purchased have anywhere from 10-18 songs on them. They were purchased for roughly 10-$20 an album, at $1 a song those are pretty even costs.
I do not believe this is true at all. I'm pretty sure that bittorrent preferentially seeks out the least common "bits" among those downloading the file in order to ensure that there is a complete copy available, sometimes allowing a complete file to be downloaded even though there are no seeds. I've completed downloading (legal) unseeded files quite frequently. They do NOT load "from the beginning of the file to the end of the file," IIRC.
http://sailes.co.uk/sy22/bittorrent.htm
What you said is completely false. BitTorrent uses either Random First, i.e. selects a random chunk to download, or Rarest First, i.e. downloads the chunk that the fewest clients have. It definitely does NOT go linearly from beginning to end of file. If it stalls around 90%, this is only because there are some chunks which are much more rare than others.
Note that in this case, you closing your client as soon as the download completes reduces the benefit the seller gets, but does not negate it, as BitTorrent uploads and downloads simultaneously, even if the file is incomplete.
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If the band is giving open permission to do so (e.g. a notice at the venue or on the band's website), a signed letter isn't required under promissory estoppel-style doctrines. Even without a signed contract, any prosecution attempted would run into the "But you said it was okay!" defense.
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bittorrent evolved beyond that limitation a long time ago. multi-tracker torrents are now the norm.
This is basically what Steam does.
.torrent file, though, and download with your favorite client, which I did getting, oh, about 1000x the download rates.
Steam? As in Valve's distribution mechanism? That Steam, at least, doesn't do anything like that. There is no P2P mechanism in steam, clients are pure clients. Updates are downloaded from a network of mirrors distributed geographically ("Total Available Bandwidth: 14,635.00Mbps"). Come to think of it, I wonder what protocol is used to transfer data from the content servers... it might be some Steam-proprietary protocol, but chances are it's simply HTTP or FTP.
Anyway, maybe you're thinkink of Blizzard's World of Warcraft. They used to rely heavily on BitTorrent to transfer the beta client and major updates. These days, it seems that all updates are downloaded from the servers, at least from the looks of it. Maybe that will change with the next major update. (And maybe it's different in the US, I'm in the EU.)
That was a disaster for me and many other people, because Blizzards were too dumb to limit the upstream either manually or by some sort of algorithm, which lead to extremely slow downloads on asynchronous connections. You could extract the
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BitTorrent is banned at my university (University of Florida). See: http://freeculture.org/wiki/index.php/Icarus for links, including a slashdot article on the matter.
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This is basically what Steam does. ...and it's a crock, because it's basically paying the company to use YOUR resources.
On the general topic of media companies delivering content to you via Bittotrrent, and you using some of your upstream to distribute the file...
Yes, they are using some of your resources. However the way to look at it is not that you are paying them to use your bandwidth - instead realize that you are offering a mix of bandwidth and money for the services offered. To put it another way, they could also distribute the content via a standard means, but then you'd also have to pay more to support the far greater cost of bandwidth.
It's a win-win in another way - when content starts finally flying around in large qualities via a bittorrent like protocol, then said content companies and consumers will push for greater upstream caps instead of the measly 256k most of s with high-speed connections have now.
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Perhaps you're close, but it's not fair to call that instant. I'm assuming that the Internet doesn't close for holidays, unlike video stores.
Well, I don't know what video stores you frequent but the ones I do (Hollywood and Blockbuster) are open 365 days a year.
Hollywood Video (source)
Hours of Operation:
We're open 365 days a year
Sun-Sat 10a.m. to Midnight
** Most Locations
The three Blockbuster Video stores closest to me are open 365 days a year as well but their store locator is down at the moment for proof.
Here's a couple I found. #japan-tv and d-addicts.
Others have already pointed out Azureus' warning about not having seeded enough.
Also, Azureus is UPnP aware. This means if you have a relatively new router (everything I've used in the last year or so has been UPnP compliant) Azureus should go ahead and punch the holes it needs in the firewall for you. It's always worked well for me.