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IE7 Details Emerge

Varg Vikernes writes "Microsoft Watch has a story about new features we can expect in IE7 (code named 'Rincon') which they gathered through Microsoft's key partners. Apparently we can expect 32 bit PNG support, native IDN support, new functionality that will simplify printing from inside IE and, of course, tabbed browsing. The new browser also will likely include a built-in news aggregator. Apparently an important factor is security."

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  1. Microsoft has finally been forced to innovate by msully4321 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since they crushed Netscape, Microsoft has not had to improve their browser any significant amount. It seems the threat from Firefox is forcing them to innovate and improve in a market they once took for granted.

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    1. Re:Microsoft has finally been forced to innovate by fm6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Firefox is not so much a threat (its market share is still tiny) as an embarassment. It's evidence that Microsoft is way behind in figuring out what kind of software people need and getting it out the door. That's always been an issue (remember how many versions of MS-DOS shipped without a decent text editor?) but when they screw up with something as conspicuous as a web browser, people notice.

  2. printing by Phil246 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "new functionality that will simplify printing from inside IE"
    in other words, theyve fixed it so printing from IE isnt as retarded?
    how hard can it be to print a page without chopping parts off

  3. many useful features... by nick-less · · Score: 5, Insightful

    but nearly one will ever install it unless MS forces them via autoupdate...
    I bet I IE5 and IE6 will still annoy us for many many years...

  4. Not too keen on Standards by PineHall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Partner sources say Microsoft is wavering on the extent to which it plans to support CSS2 with IE 7.0.

    Microsoft still wants to be the one to set the standards

  5. Built-in news aggregator by SlashThat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Built-in news aggregator = Advertising platform?

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  6. This sounds great but... by bmw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is anyone else screaming WHAT ABOUT CSS?! IE is the single largest reason I don't enjoy doing web development. If they could somehow manage to actually support some accepted standards (other than their own) it would make life oh so much better for all of us.

  7. Re:security by stfvon007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There concerned with security because other more secure browsers like firefox are becoming more populer. They want a more secure position for their market share. Microsoft can be innovative, but they only do so when outside factors that threaten their market share force them to be.

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  8. Re:So, basically... by Tim+C · · Score: 5, Insightful

    id rather use netscape navigator from 5 years ago

    I actually used NN 5 years ago. It was a buggy, slow, crash-prone piece of shit that couldn't handle even moderately complex nested tables without slowing to an absolute crawl and needed to reload the entire page to resize it(!), and I speak as a former ardent Netscape user (I have *never* used IE as my primary browser).

    I'd rather user IE6 than NN 3/4 if I had to choose; it's simply not worth that much pain.

  9. what about the real important stuff.... by MoFoQ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    what about the real important stuff....like real RFC and W3C compliance and not "pseudo"?
    Examples: digest authentication is not implemented correctly in IE hence most webservers use a work-around to make it work, which also happens to make it not be truly digest authentication...or the fact that if u gzip-encode all files and you have zip files, IE will convienently forget that the zip file was gzipped, leaving a file that most zip programs like Windows own built-in Zip Folders can't handle (WinRAR will correctly ungzip it before processing the zip file).

    Of course, alpha-blending support for PNG would be nice...as well as CSS2 support (for those dynamic pulldown menus that can be done purely in CSS).

  10. Um...WTFN? by bonch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No so fast. IE7 still won't be standards-compliant. That won't matter to most end-users, of course, but it matters to me as a web developer.

    From article:

    Partner sources say Microsoft is wavering on the extent to which it plans to support CSS2 with IE 7.0. Developers have been clamoring for Microsoft to update its CSS support to support the latest W3C standards for years. But Microsoft is leaning toward adding some additional CSS2 support to IE 7.0, but not embracing the standard in its entirety, partners say.

    My only question is...um, why the fuck not? Even Apple's Safari is already plunging ahead with preliminary CSS3 support.

    I predict IE7's "additional support for CSS2" will really just mean fixing the major box model and table width bugs and not changing anything else.

  11. Re:security by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft can be innovative, but they only do so when outside factors that threaten their market share force them to be.

    No, they can't; they've never shown this before.

    What you're seeing now isn't innovation, unless you're using some alternate definition of the word. They're simply implementing features that already exist in other browsers. That's "copying".

    They may be "performing well", but don't confuse that with "innovating". You can do a marvelous job at implementing someone else's ideas, but that doesn't make you an innovator.

  12. Firefox R&D for Microsoft? by hkmwbz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pray tell... What R&D has Firefox done "on behalf of Microsoft"? What fresh Firefox ideas are MS about to "steal"? Please be specific.

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