Opera Lays Down Acid2 Challenge

sebFlyte writes "The CTO of Opera has proposed a new version of the acid test for browser compatibility, and has challenged Microsoft to make IE7 a browser worth having that will do the Web good. He's asked to help from Web designers the world over to build a new page for Microsoft to test IE7 with to make sure it does everything Web designers want it to. "

Comments

Implementing full standards would help

[PornMaster]

It'd be nice if there were reference pages made by the standards committees, so a browser could be simply deemed compliant or not.

Re:Like, render Slashdot the same way every time?

[porcupine8]

Am I the only person who has never had any issues with slashdot and firefox? Or if there are, they're minimal enough that I've never noticed them, so I doubt they're really worth bitching about.

Re:Like, render Slashdot the same way every time?

[Jerk City Troll]

View the source on any Slashdot web page and observe the gigantic, sloppy cluster-fuck that is their output. Do not blame Gecko for this nightmare of deeply nested tables, font tags, missing close tags, and other crap. (What's funny is that Slashdot gives an HTTP 403 to validator.w3.org.) When Slashdot makes their code sane, then we can blame the browser. It's amazing to me that any user agent can parse this and make sense of it.

Sometimes, IE renders bad HTML well

[benhocking]

This is not meant to be an attack on IE. If reasonable assumptions can be made about what the code should do, even when coded incorrectly, then it's great that IE does this. I'm not sure of any specific examples, but when I first started writing web pages (years ago), I remember that Netscape would cough on some pages that IE rendered well. Invariably, the problem was that I had left off some terminating tags, and IE correctly figured out my intentions.

Three caveats:

First, having Netscape scold me allowed me to fix my code. IMHO, a better way to do this, however, would be to have an option called "pedantic" that would insist on matching tags (where appropriate). This might exist now, and if so, that's great.

Second, trying to "guess" what was intended is rife with problems. Anyone who has used MS Word for long enough knows what I mean.

Finally, I currently use FireFox the vast majority of the time. I do not know if any of what I said is still true.