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OpenBSD Clashes with Adaptec In Quest for Docs

TrumpetPower! writes "OpenBSD developers have been asking for documentation from Adaptec for over four months. Adaptec's response has been to deliberately misunderstand what is being asked of them. A former Adaptec employee admits that the hardware is buggy and tricky to get right. So, as a result, OpenBSD 3.7 will ship without Adaptec RAID support. Personally, I'm glad that Theo isn't resting on his laurels."

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  1. Re:Why just OpenBSD? by mpecaut · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Most Linux and other BSD users only care about software being free as in beer. They pay lip service to free software but they are pretty quick to compromise. Where is the Linux Leadership? I guess they are busy signing NDAs. -Mark

  2. Confirmed OpenBSD is dead. by ABeowulfCluster · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    When it gets to the point when your developers start flaming hardware developers in public, don't expect much generosity from those vendors in the future. Summary of articles: developer sends a couple of requests to adaptec nothing much happens flaming developer types up a rant with keyboard courage hardware vendor shocked at rudeness of rant. replies saying that firmware needs work. developer does the blockquote rant, and flails arms in the air: Wah! Wah! Wah! Adapted hates us. Summary of real life: Adapted doesn't hate OpenBSD. It takes work to provide a huge technical manual of all your products. And, with firmware changing, the specs for how to interface with that product will change. The articles paint Adaptec as some sort of bad guy, when that isn't the case.

  3. Re:Why just documentation? by 0racle · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Why? I just bought a used Sun Ultra10. If I decide to use it as my primary desktop, should I now expect every piece of hardware to work with it? Sun hardware is more popular then OpenBSD is, so everything should just work right? I should be able to walk up to Readmond and demand my UltraSPARC version of Windows right? I run OpenBSD on SPARC32 machines, should I now expect the manufacturer of every piece of hardware to create a sbus version of their hardware because thats what my hardware has?

    The obligation to their customers is to clearly list what they support, and they do. If you go beyond that, you already knew it wasn't supported so your on your own.

    'They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let them crash.'

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  4. Re:Just a note by Spoing · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    1. The management utility in the FreeBSD ports tree is binary-only. OpenBSD refuse to accept binary only crap, which is why they want this documentation.

    If the BSD folks don't want binary only crap, why allow what they write to turn into binary only crap?

    (Cheap shot...I know...I don't have any problem with BSD-style licences and would be happy to either admin or install a new system using BSD, though this is one serious drawback to the BSD licence so complaining about someone closing the source is...well.)

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  5. Re:Why just documentation? by SlamMan · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Bullocks. They're under no obligation to release specs to the OpenBSD folks then they are to port their drivers to OS/2. If someone bought their product, intending to get it to work on an unsupported OS, thats the customers fault.

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