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Mandrake 2006 Will Integrate Conectiva Components

Linzer writes "Mandrakelinux just issued this press release presenting (1) a new one-year release cycle, with a year-based naming scheme and (2) their updated development roadmap. In a nutshell: the upcoming 10.2 becomes a transitional release, labeled 'Limited Edition 2005.' Next fall will see Mandrakelinux 2006, merging Mdk and Conectiva know-how (and possibly some know-not?) For the amnesic: Mandrakesoft and Conectiva recently merged." Not everyone is pleased, though: Tingulli 3 writes "As a member of the Italian Mandrakelinux translation team , I spent nights translating some packages to be on schedule for the 10.2 release. I was quite disappointed when I discovered that a new roadmap has been announced and that there will NOT be any 10.2 release, without anybody announcing it to the community."

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  1. Re:Long release date by sinkemlow · · Score: 5, Informative

    RTFA.... "Later, by fall of this year, the new boxed "2006" release will fully integrate Conectiva technology and Mandrakesoft online services into a new product." Not fall of '06, but fall of '05 will see the "2006" release.

  2. Flaky networking made me switch to Fedora by onlyjoking · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Around 10.0 Mandrake's networking went down the pan. Cards which worked with 9 suddenly didn't work and lost their settings. At other times the same cards couldn't be detected. Mandrake's Control Centre's display config tool was also terrible. I switched to Fedora and never looked back. One thing Fedora has over Mandrake is the option to install everything. This makes installation a breeze as it's much easier to remove stuff later than plough through Mandrake's maze of sub-menus at install time.

    1. Re:Flaky networking made me switch to Fedora by Lord+Kano · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Urpmi makes it a breeze to install everything on Mandrake.

      Urpmi is THE main reason why I haven't sought out another distro. I quit using Red Hat in favor of Mandrake because I got sick of rpm-depend-hell. Urpmi solved that forever. I don't particularly like the options that they compiled Apache with, but that's minimal compared to trolling through rpm-depends.

      LK

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    2. Re:Flaky networking made me switch to Fedora by redhog · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, except yum is much inferior to urpmi, both theoretically (urpmi has better algorithms and datastructures) and practically (yum has a shitload of bugs, such as big problems working with an install-root different from /). urpmi and apt-get are on par with each other in my experience (mature, good performance scaling), and I can't see why redhat shose yum, as both apt-get for rpm and urpmi are available to them and are both superior...

      A proof of how bad yum really is, is that some people have independently set up Fedora repositories managed by apt-get!

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  3. Maybe the distro isn't that important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The place where Linux has a real competitive advantage is the less wealthy countries. Compared to the other costs in an organization, the Microsoft tax is a much bigger deal there. What they need is a local source of Linux expertise. They can't pay European wage rates. So, as long as Mandrake doesn't corrupt Conectiva's value chain, they have bought their way into a growth market. Having the distro may just be the cost of entry into the market. As long as they don't try to subsidize the distro with the Brazilian business, they may have found a winning business model.

  4. From the blurb.... by Infinityis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I was quite disappointed when I discovered that a new roadmap has been announced and that there will NOT be any 10.2 release, without anybody announcing it to the community"

    I could be mistaken, but wouldn't that announcement qualify as an announcement to the community?

  5. Re:perfect distro? by Lord+Kano · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only way to evaluate a distro is to install and use it. If you're thinking about mandrake, or Suse, or Fedora, or Debian, or whatever. See if you've got the space to try it out and then do so.

    Mandrake is my distro of choice, but I understand that it isn't for everyone.

    LK

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  6. Re:Mandrake History by KnightMB · · Score: 5, Informative

    Different strokes for different folks, since Mandrake 10.1 I've no problems installing it on hundreds of machines. If anything 10.1 was a step in the right direction. I did try Fedora, but it was a nightmare. Nothing has come close to the ease of use of Mandrake Linux of any distro that I've tried. I can convert people from Windows to Linux because Mandrake has everything they did in windows minus Microsoft office, but that's why Open Office exist ;-)

  7. For the amnesic: by iminplaya · · Score: 4, Funny
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    What?
  8. Re:I await by KnightMB · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As long as they keep pushing out great distros, I wouldn't care if they called it Mandrake v3.14ø (Midnight Flying Frogs) Edition. Been a long time user of it, always been happy with the release and I help hundreds of people switch from windows to Linux using this distro as a good starting point.

  9. Mandrakelinux 10.2 RC1 Screenshots by linuxbeta · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. Re:Mandrakelinux 10.2 RC1 Screenshots by eobanb · · Score: 4, Funny

      oh, wow, look...it's.......KDE..........

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  10. Trying to understand the naming scheme by publicworker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In a nutshell: the upcoming 10.2 becomes a transitional release, labeled 'Limited Edition 2005.' ... ["]I was quite disappointed when I discovered that a new roadmap has been announced and that there will NOT be any 10.2["]

    So the unhappy Mandrake community members are the ones that don't understand the new naming scheme?

  11. Re:Mandrake History by burne · · Score: 3, Insightful
    receiving fat oil vouchers from Saddam
    And that makes it all right for Bush and Blair to lie to the rest of the world? Oh, and 8% of the oil sold under the oil-for-food program went to France, compared to 41% labelled 'America'. The likelyhood of fat bonusses on the Hill is equally larger. You snivelling self-righteous liar! :>
  12. Bastards. by jusdisgi · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was quite disappointed when I discovered that a new roadmap has been announced and that there will NOT be any 10.2 release, without anybody announcing it to the community.

    I know just what he means; nothing pisses me off like somebody telling me something, and not telling me about it. Bastards.

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  13. I've got one real compaint about Mdk by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And that is the way their GUI system config program, drakconf, doesn't seem to interact with CLI tools properly. Something caused my network setup to go down the toilet; When I try to figure things out, drakconf says one thing and ifconfig/route/netstat/etc seem to say another. I say "drakconf, delete eth0", and ifconfig still shows it. In the end, I gave up and just canned all network settings and setup the network from scratch (not a big deal: 1 DSL modem, two 10/100 cards), but I shouldn't have had to. Other than that, I think that the keypad-like (as opposed to side bar) button layout of Drakconf in 10.0 sucked bigtime from the usability perspective - good thing that changed with 10.1.

    Main things I like are that Mdk unifies the look and feel of KDE and Gnome. It's GUI tools are friendly enough for everyday tasks but you can still go back to the CLI any time you want the power. Oh yeah - did I mention that Konqueror starts in about 2 seconds, eats ~5MB of memory per instance, and has tabbed browsing?