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Major Hangups Over the iPod Phone

chadwick writes "It seemed like a sure thing: the iPod mobile phone. What could be more irresistible than a device combining the digital-music prowess of Apple Computer (AAPL) with the wireless expertise of Motorola (MOT)? Motorola sent its buzz machinery into overdrive in January when it leaked word that the product would debut at a cellular-industry conference in New Orleans in mid-March. Well, hold the phone. At the New Orleans confab, a frustrated Edward Zander, Motorola's chief executive, stood before a roomful of analysts and reporters and said the handset's debut would have to wait. "

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  1. Compatible? by cenosite · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I bet that "the handset's debut would have to wait." because, at least for hard drive based ipods, a phone on vibrate is a bad thing for the relatively weak hard drives in these things. I dont have the specs handy, but the hard drive in an ipod probably is not up for the abuse of a phone vibrator built in. Killer phone: flash ipod, am/fm, cell phone. Compare international long distance phone card rates at http://www.allegrophone.com

  2. Solution: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    1.) Apple and motorola combine forces to create their own cell phone towers and wireless carrier network!
    2.) All geeks transfer over to the new system, and it crashes.
    3.) But with the new money, Apple and motorola make an even larger network and buy out a few carriers as well
    4.) Profit!

  3. Phony iPod by dotslashdot · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I knew it was a phony iPod story. Now it's time the phonys face the music.

  4. Re:Motorola should have known this by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 0, Redundant
    Carriers have a strange-hold over this market.

    How strange? You mean some sort of sneaky, underhanded mind-meld sort of thing?

  5. In the year 2000.... by t0ny747 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    In the year 2000 cell phones will do everything but make phone calls.

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  6. Re:Whata ya wanna bet by Nyder · · Score: 0, Redundant

    stupid AC

    he didn't.

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  7. Re:Pre announcements by mp3phish · · Score: 1, Redundant
    "Where did you check?"

    Apple gets 3 times as much money as musicians from each sale. Apple takes a 35% cut from every song and every album sold, a huge amount considering how little they have to do. Record labels receive the other 65% of each sale. Of this, major label artists will end up with only 8 to 14 cents per song, depending on their contract


    And checked:
    Sites in the US typically sell tracks for 99 cents each. The wholesale price is currently 65 cents per track


    And Checked again:
    The wholesale price of a track is thought to be around 65c, but the success of Apple's iTunes online music store, which to date has sold more than 200m songs and accounts for some 65% of the download market, has raised the eyebrows of music executives


    And Checked again:
    In the United States, online stores typical sell music downloads for about 99c per track. The wholesale cost of these tracks (that the shops pay) is about 65c."


    And Checked again:
    The majors are asking and getting about 65 cents per download from each 99 cent download from Apple


    And Checked again:
    with Apple paying the record companies an average of 65cents per track...[from a FORTUNE article]


    And Checked again:
    And straight from the FT horse's mouth. (reg required)

    "Because the numbers I have (as a shareholder) reveal that margins are closer to 6%"

    Then you are not a very astute shareholder. Total operating profits ARE NOT THE SAME as resellers margin. Apple sells their songs at a significant margin. This isn't going to stop them from burning it all on (well recieved) advertising. But it certaintly does not have anything to do with "razor thin" margins. MARGINS are defined based on the cost of a product. PROFITS are defined based on your total revenues and your total costs. There is a HUGE difference here. iTMS is a VERY HIGH MARGIN business. It just so happens that Apple puts nearly every penny they earn off it back into the business in the form of advertising.

    Get your facts straight before you go spouting off your BS about being a "shareholder" and your "portfolio" says differently and the "data you have" shows differently. Saying things like this doesn't make you look smarter. Having a Ph.D. doesn't make you look smarter. It just makes other people who read your posts confused because they are reading 2 different things (yours being the wrong one)

    "I'll let the Ph.D. and my publications speak to that"

    With all due respect, I hope your Ph.D. it is not business, being that you cannot accurately define margin and profit.
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  8. I'm sorry WHAT? by skrolle2 · · Score: 1, Redundant

    One insider says that even if Cingular and Verizon, the two largest wireless players, won't sell the Motorola-Apple phone, smaller rivals, such as T-Mobile, may peddle it to gain ground on the industry leaders.

    The US cell phone market really confuses me, why couldn't you go to a store and buy the phone without the blessing/subscription plan/lock-in of a carrier, and then just pop your current SIM-card into the new phone? Why do you have to buy your phones through a carrier?

    Are there no stores which just sell phones without subscription plans?

    Can't you move your SIM-card to any phone you want?