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Bang But No Splash

BishopBerkeley writes "When a drop of ethanol is dropped on a surface at low pressures (1/5 atmosphere or less), it makes no splash. Science offers a brief synopsis and fascinating pictures of the phenomenon. The results seem to confirm the (perhaps counterintuitive) prediction that more viscous liquids are more likely to splash, not less likely . Links to the researchers' home page at U of Chicago (as of now, the site is timing out) and pdf version of the article on arxiv can be found on the Science page also."

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  1. Ethanol by KiloByte · · Score: 5, Funny

    Uh oh. Someone left some ethanol next to bored scientists again.

    People like my friends know the right thing to do, but it appears that this knowledge is not common enough.

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  2. Re:Synopsis: by Neophytus · · Score: 5, Informative

    The PDF has the pictures. I wish people wouldn't link redundant urls.

  3. An accessible page, more types of fluids tested by ylikone · · Score: 5, Informative

    Click here to see.

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    1. Re:An accessible page, more types of fluids tested by andy753421 · · Score: 5, Informative

      For everyone without real player just change the *.splash.rm to *.splash.avi on the video link since even the 'AVI format' link points to a real media file.
      The movie seems to me much more effective than the jpg image, I was supprised by them skipping head so far between the 3rd and 4th frame, seems leaves out some of the important parts..

  4. We know quarks, but not this... by Psychic+Burrito · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't it amazing that we're investigating quarks but haven't yet fully understood the properties of athmosphere and vacuum? We could have found those phenomena 400 years ago, but no...

    Makes one wonder what else the laws of physics are hiding from us yet... and whether we have really tried to analyse physics systematically enough.

    1. Re:We know quarks, but not this... by hey! · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, to be fair to the upper crust Elizabethan gentleman scientists of yore, photography wouldn't be invented for another two hundred years, and high speed emulsions for some decades after that. Now those 20th century scientists -- thats a different kettle of fish.

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    2. Re:We know quarks, but not this... by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Isn't it amazing that we're investigating quarks but haven't yet fully understood the properties of athmosphere and vacuum? We could have found those phenomena 400 years ago, but no...
      I'm not sure this is new. A housemate (who worked in a dairy) told me many years ago that milk is transported in vaccuum tankers to avoid it arriving as butter.
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    3. Re:We know quarks, but not this... by nameer · · Score: 5, Interesting
      This one has me stumped:

      A small balloon is inflated in atmospheric pressure until it pops. The resulting fragments are a few large pieces of latex.

      A simmilar balloon is inflated by tying it off, placing it in a bell jar, and evacuating the jar. When the balloon pops, the result is a shredded mess of many small pieces of latex.

      The guy at the museum who showed this demonstration couldn't explain to me why it did this. He just kept saying, "It pops everywhere at once". Okay, but why?

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    4. Re:We know quarks, but not this... by Idarubicin · · Score: 5, Interesting
      It's one of those things that's utterly obvious--after the experiment is done.

      Given no a priori knowledge of this experiment, I could come up with convincing thought experiments and analogies to explain either possible outcome (low viscosity or high viscosity being less likely to splash).

      For example, what happens when a ball of soft putty drops on a surface? It definitely doesn't produce an apparent splash. The "intuitive" interpretation might be, then, that high viscosity liquids are less able to splash, based on our experience with a large, viscous semisolid.

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  5. ScienceNOW text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sucking Away the Splatter

    LOS ANGELES--Nature may abhor a vacuum, but a vacuum abhors a mess. In the absence of air, a droplet of liquid can crash into a smooth surface without splattering, physicists report. The odd phenomenon might be useful for controlling droplet formation in technological processes like inkjet printing.

    Splashdown. A drop of ethanol hits a smooth glass at atmospheric pressure (above) and 1/5 atmospheric pressure (below).
    CREDIT: Lei Xu et al./The University of Chicago

    It seems obvious and inevitable that a fast-moving droplet will splatter when it hits a hard surface. Researchers have studied the distribution of droplet sizes and energies in such splashes, and physicists Lei Xu, Sidney Nagel, and colleagues at the University of Chicago were searching for ways to control those sizes and energies when they discovered something unexpected: By pumping away some of the surrounding air they could eliminate the splatter entirely.
    Within a tall vacuum chamber, the researchers released droplets of alcohol onto a dry glass plate from heights ranging from 20 centimeters to 3 meters. They recorded the resulting splashes with a high speed video camera as they varied the pressure in their apparatus, sucking it down as low as one hundredth of atmospheric pressure. The droplets struck the surface with speeds ranging from 2 to 7 meters per second, and for a given speed, the researchers found they could eliminate the splash by lowering the pressure beyond a specific threshold.

    The team explains the results with a simple theory. As a drop strikes a surface, liquid begins to spread sideways at supersonic speed, creating a shockwave. The shockwave pushes back on the liquid, and if that force is greater than the internal forces holding the drop together, the shockwave will lift the liquid off the surface and create a splash. Reducing the pressure reduces the force exerted by the shock wave.

    Ironically, the theory predicts that a thicker liquid should splash more than a thinner one. The researchers tested this curious prediction by studying the splash made by three types of alcohol with different viscosities. Indeed, the more viscous the alcohol, the lower the pressure needed to prevent splashing, the team reported here this week at a meeting of the American Physical Society.

    "It's not uncommon to see a lovely phenomenon, but it is uncommon to get all the factors straight," says Walter Goldburg, an experimenter at the University of Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania. Bulbul Chakraborty, a theoretical physicist at Brandeis University in Waltham, Massachusetts, says the researchers' analysis opens the way to controlling splashing in, for example, spray coating surfaces with various substances.

  6. Here's the picture by hairykrishna · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The pdf link's a little slow and I'm sure people don't want to register for the article so I upped the image onto my website:

    http://www.hairykrishna.f2s.com/droplet.html

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  7. Re:How would superfluids behave? by MustardMan · · Score: 5, Informative

    To follow up on your follow-up, water is hard to splash because it's a polar molecule. There's a slight positive charge off to one side and a slight negative charge off to the other. Hence, the molecules of water tend to attract each other. They also attract lots of other stuff, which is why water is so great as a solvent, why you get a meniscus at the top of a test tube, why rain droplets form nice round bubbles on the surface of your car, etcetera.

    Sometimes in science I tend to get caught up with the complex math and theory, and forget the basic stuff. Water is a truly fascinating material, and can give us a lot of insight into the workings of the world.

  8. As Dave Barry pointed out.... by MemeRot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We invented nuclear bombs before we invented intermittent wipers for cars. Progress is never a smooth line.

    1. Re:As Dave Barry pointed out.... by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but they only decided to proceed on the nuclear bombs when they realized dropping intermittent wipers on the Japanese would not end the war.

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    2. Re:As Dave Barry pointed out.... by RobiOne · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but immagine the Japanese's horror if they did drop intermittent wipers all over them!

      They'd think we'd wipe them out.

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  9. Re:LESS viscous liquids are more likely to splash by Herbster · · Score: 5, Informative

    uh. surface tension and viscosity are NOT the same thing.

  10. Air pressure is critical by jbeaupre · · Score: 5, Informative

    This was discussed in Science News (or maybe elsewhere) some time back so I'm working from memory. One of the things reseachers noted was that air was crucial for splashing. It's rather intuitive in a way. All of the momentum is downward, then converted to radially outward. What makes it go up? The leading edge of the droplet is rushing outward. With the right speed and gas pressure, it splashes up like popping the hood of your car while going down the highway. Get rid of the speed or the gas and it will stay low.

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    1. Re:Air pressure is critical by jbeaupre · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling you what I remember from the article. As for elastic collision, liquids have no elasticity in the way you are suggesting. Bouncing comes from bulk compression. Fluids, well, flow unless constrained. A droplet isn't constrained so it splats. Except for a miniscule shock propagation wave, you won't get KE->PE->KE of a bounce. But your point about it splashing over itself is a good observation. Sort of creating its own pool then splashing it out. I wonder if they considered it. I apologize for the word intuitive. It's a subjective term.

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  11. Re:Camera - OT by cluke · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good job too. Imagine leaving that into the chemist to get developed. "Just the the one set of my 47,000 prints please". And then you get them all back with a 'photography tips' sticker on as you had your thumb over the lens.

  12. Re:Nice! by Eccles · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your Free Registration does not grant access to this item:
    Full Text : Cho,Sucking Away the Splatter,


    With a title like that, you would think it's "adult" content they're charging for...

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  13. elegant by FLOOBYDUST · · Score: 5, Funny

    Science at its best. Their explanation passes the three fingers rule. If a complicated subject can be distilled into a written answer that makes sense and can be covered with three fingers, that is elegance. However, don't be confused with answers that makes sense after ingesting three fingers of straight ethanol......

  14. further research by emilng · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was curious enough about what you said to do some further research. I found the following:

    Protein denatures as you beat it up with the whisk Fat globules are dispersed into smaller and smaller droplets as well,,,hey, how would you like to be whipped with sharp slicing pieces of metal?????? All the while, water is swirling and moving creating eddies of air like a sunami in your bowl Sugar is looking for a safe place to land in all the confusion.... End Result: Uncoiled protein (denaturation) surrounds the air bubbles Sugar lands on the denatured protein and holds on for dear life Fat surrounds the sugar, protein and air bubble, trapping the water Now multiply this scene by about 2 zillion K-billion times You have created an interlaced 3-dimesnional net we call a foam (remember our dispersion chart???? Foam is a gas dispersed in a liquid.....air trapped in milk)

    So you wouldn't be able to get the milk to turn into whipped cream which turns into butter without the air for the fat, protein, and sugar to cling to. So this is why the milk is shipped in a vacuum.

    Full text: http://www2.muw.edu/~jfitzger/page81.html