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Indie Artists Support Peer To Peer

dpilgrim writes "Alex Veiga at the Associated Press has a good story on indie artists voicing support for file sharing networks. While not a new topic on Slashdot, it's great to see musicians speaking out about the value of p2p as an alternative channel for reaching audiences. Choice quote from Veiga's article, on what it's like to pass muster before a mainstream media company: "For Sananda Maitreya... online music distribution gives him the freedom he says he lacked when he was signed with a major label in the 1980s under his former name, Terence Trent D'Arby. Back then, Maitreya recalled, committees had to sign off on any music released. 'The Beatles could not have faced that criteria and come up with anything other than the most mediocre, conservative music,' said Maitreya.""

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  1. Great... by Havenwar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now if only someone ever listened to what the artists said...

    Or to indie artists in general.

  2. When you have clout like the Beatles... by Golgafrinchan · · Score: 5, Insightful
    'The Beatles could not have faced that criteria and come up with anything other than the most mediocre, conservative music,' said Maitreya.

    I'm not sure that the Beatles are a good example here. By the time they started doing really revolutionary stuff on Revolver, they'd already had 10 #1 singles. I'd suspect that any artist who reached that point would have a lot more freedom in what they did.

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  3. Re:essentials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm still waiting for you to get to the part where P2P solves the problem of artists needing money.

  4. It's not just P2P that's hurting the RIAA by riptide_dot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This from the perspective of an "indie" musician:

    P2P distribution + web advertising = no more requirement for RIAA to promote and sell your album for you.

    ProTools = no more requirement for RIAA to supply you with a "professional" recording studio

    ProTools + P2P distribution + web advertising = no more RIAA requirement PERIOD.

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  5. Re:P2P actually does help artists by Monkelectric · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Record companies know that p2p helps their sales, but it messes up their CONTROL OF THE DISTRIBUTION CHANNEL. Why would we need sony music at ALL if bands can sell their albums directly to you?

    Also it takes the control of popular culture out of their hands. I recently downloaded an album from a cool south american folk/electronica band. Is that *EVER* going to be on MTV, VH1 or Clear Channel? I think Not

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  6. Musicians want people to share *some* of their... by turnstyle · · Score: 4, Insightful
    But musicians only want people to share the specific tracks that they want people to share.

    Most want some tracks shared, but others kept for CDs.

    It's misleading to say that musicians favor P2P without considering what portion of their catalog they'd like to be shared.

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  7. Re:Doesn't change anything... actually, it does. by muel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does this mean you feel guilty when you hear a song on the radio? The whole point of "indie artists support P2P" is to find better promotional distribution now that the musical community has outgrown the limits of clamped-down radio. Major labels have always had a stranglehold on radio distribution, but now we're in a world where smaller artists and labels have the power, technology and distribution to receive just as much attention as the artist who suckles at ClearChannel or MTV's teat. P2P is a way to get people to hear imperfect copies of songs - much like radio, but with more control. Does this create freeloaders? Sure, just as cassette tapes did in the 80's, but even if it's to a grander scale, the tape-to-purchase ratio of the 80's is nowhere near the mp3-to-purchase ratio of today - you can make some serious money from downloaders, oftentimes through ticket and merch sales even more so than album sales. "Most artists have not given their permission" - that's not the case, because if someone releases a CD, they want it promoted. They want to be heard so they can make some goddamn money. Consider P2P distribution a "marketing expense" and it makes complete sense. It costs less to seed a torrent and give away a few free copies of an album than it does to whip up a huge batch of flyers, for crying out loud!

  8. Re:P2P actually does help artists by Monkelectric · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The record companies could give a shit less about each other

    You are completely wrong. They want P2P shut down so SONY/BMG et all are the ONLY way to buy music.

    Music labels are obsolete, heres whats going to happen, itune like stores are going to start selling music from indie bands, and they will bypass the music industry all together. THAT is what they are afraid of.

    You've been drinking the RIAA koolaid.

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  9. Re:Music Costs by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is quite a bit cheaper to produce your own music now than it used to be:

    $500 - 1.4 GHZ P4 computer w/24bit soundcard - parts built by myself - I was able to find some good deals - for example I spent $10 for the case.
    $75 - 24bit compatible multitrack recording software (N-Track)
    $99 - good quality condenser mic
    $79 - good quality cardoid mic
    $25 - two mic stands
    $30 - enough DIN cable to choke a horse (for connecting the mics to the mixing board)
    $50 - decent 6 channel mixing board
    $30 - misc other gear (RCA cables etc...)
    $60 - BOSE computer speakers (excellent sound quality and onboard amp and 2 inputs - for mixing down your stereo master).
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    $948 - Total (not including instruments - I assume if you are a musician you already have your instrument).

    So, for about a grand you can have your own home recording studio that can produce as good sound quality as any professional studio out there. Of course, you have to spend the time to learn how to properly record sound - but there are books out there you can buy that take you through it in detail - from how to properly set up an acoustic environment to microphone placement to setting recording levels and how parametric equalization works etc...

    Recording ain't cheap for those who can't or don't know how to do it themselves. Those who can do. They are doing it today and going indie, or even posting their tunes for free if they are not interested in the business side of music. http://music.myspace.com has a good selection - and there are other sites as well that allow users to post their MP3 recordings for download and/or streaming.

    With the sorry state of pop music today, more and more people are finding a viable alternative online via free downloads and sales of independently produced music. With the closure of traditional outlets for advertising certain genres (Rolling Stone is reporting that Clear Channel is closing down a large number of Rock stations in favor of urban/hip hop formats - at the same time as we are seeing a renewal in interest in Rock! Where will Rock artists go to get exposure? I think it will be the web - and in a big way due to the lack of air-time in the traditional form).

    Anyway, I believe the traditional big record labels are going to be around in the future, but they are not going to be as 'big' as they once were - and quality music that is not spoon-fed vanilla pop will be more and more a web phenomenon.

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