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Indie Artists Support Peer To Peer

dpilgrim writes "Alex Veiga at the Associated Press has a good story on indie artists voicing support for file sharing networks. While not a new topic on Slashdot, it's great to see musicians speaking out about the value of p2p as an alternative channel for reaching audiences. Choice quote from Veiga's article, on what it's like to pass muster before a mainstream media company: "For Sananda Maitreya... online music distribution gives him the freedom he says he lacked when he was signed with a major label in the 1980s under his former name, Terence Trent D'Arby. Back then, Maitreya recalled, committees had to sign off on any music released. 'The Beatles could not have faced that criteria and come up with anything other than the most mediocre, conservative music,' said Maitreya.""

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  1. P2P actually does help artists by jb.hl.com · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you look back, even major label artists get helped by P2P. Case in point: Radiohead. Their 2000 album Kid A wasn't promoted in any way, however a copy was leaked onto Napster before it was released. Millions downloaded it, and sales went right through the roof. The same thing happened a few years later with Hail To The Thief, which sold more copies than the previous two combined.

    I personally own about $500/250GBP worth of music CDs, none of which I would have bought without P2P being there. It does help the record industry make money.

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    1. Re:P2P actually does help artists by jb.hl.com · · Score: 5, Informative

      btw, there's a RealAudio clip of band member Colin Greenwood defending P2P right here.

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    2. Re:P2P actually does help artists by cliffy2000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I seem to recall that Radiohead released Pablo Honey (with the huge single "Creep"), The Bends (with the huge single "High and Dry") and OK Computer, one of the most successful albums of all time PRIOR to Kid A being released.
      But that's not what made that (IMHO, disappointing) album sell, it was the P2P leak. Correlation != causation, foo'.

    3. Re:P2P actually does help artists by jb.hl.com · · Score: 5, Informative

      (I actually bought Pablo Honey and it's the worst album I've ever heard in the entirety of my lifetime, my love of Radiohead notwithstanding, but anyway...)

      The point is that the band did NO advertising for the album besides it being leaked on P2P. There were no singles, no music videos, no posters, no TV ads, nothing besides maybe a few displays in record stores. Precisely dick.

      I also point you to this quote from Wikipedia:

      The record industry assumed the album was now doomed to failure since fans already had the music for free. Instead the opposite happened and the band, which had never hit the US top 20 before, captured the number one spot in Kid A's debut week. With the record's absence of radio airplay, big time marketing, and any other factor that may have explained this stunning success, [a journalist] declared this was proof of the promotional powers of file trading and of word-of-mouth generated by the Net.

      There you have it.

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    4. Re:P2P actually does help artists by Monkelectric · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Record companies know that p2p helps their sales, but it messes up their CONTROL OF THE DISTRIBUTION CHANNEL. Why would we need sony music at ALL if bands can sell their albums directly to you?

      Also it takes the control of popular culture out of their hands. I recently downloaded an album from a cool south american folk/electronica band. Is that *EVER* going to be on MTV, VH1 or Clear Channel? I think Not

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  2. Great... by Havenwar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now if only someone ever listened to what the artists said...

    Or to indie artists in general.

  3. Easy communications empowers the individual by Mrs.+Grundy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The media distribution companies, whether music labels, movie producers, or stock photography corps, all understand that when communication becomes much easier among individuals their business model suffers. The only service they really offer is making media easy to find and get. The internet has done that for everyone now, and frankly, I'm surprised it is taking this long for individual artists to get on board. One of the problems that still is being worked out is open, well supported formats for sharing information. Look what RSS did for blogging and what it is doing to traditional journalism. Imagine what similar formats and application to support them can do for other individual producers of content.

  4. The Beatles by daniil · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Beatles have ripped off every single band after them. That's about as Conservative as anyone can get.

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  5. essentials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Artists need money. Fortunately, audiences have money!

    Artists don't need middlemen taking their money and screwing with their work. Fortunately, these days audiences don't need them either!

  6. When you have clout like the Beatles... by Golgafrinchan · · Score: 5, Insightful
    'The Beatles could not have faced that criteria and come up with anything other than the most mediocre, conservative music,' said Maitreya.

    I'm not sure that the Beatles are a good example here. By the time they started doing really revolutionary stuff on Revolver, they'd already had 10 #1 singles. I'd suspect that any artist who reached that point would have a lot more freedom in what they did.

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  7. It's not just P2P that's hurting the RIAA by riptide_dot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This from the perspective of an "indie" musician:

    P2P distribution + web advertising = no more requirement for RIAA to promote and sell your album for you.

    ProTools = no more requirement for RIAA to supply you with a "professional" recording studio

    ProTools + P2P distribution + web advertising = no more RIAA requirement PERIOD.

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