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Qa32 wrote to give a heads up on a BBC article discussing the IETF's plans for the future, including information on VoIP, IPv6, and security concerns. From the article: "Given the net was designed for the whole community, it has done well to reach millions. If you want to reach the whole population, you have to make sure it can scale up."

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  1. Interesting quote by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From part-way down TFA:

    "The top priority is to ensure that the standards that make the net work, are open and free for anyone to use and work with."

    Interesting for many here that the new guy at the head of the IETF seems to give this issue such emphasis.

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  2. Just make sure... by advocate_one · · Score: 5, Insightful
    you keep patents out of the standards... Microsoft have been trying to stick one in for the basic premises of IPv6... and surprise, surprise... they were also involved in the standards committee...
    Those familiar with the meetings of the IETF as the committee hammered out the IPv6 IP address discovery system told eWEEK.com that Microsoft was actively participating in those discussions back in late 1997 and early 1998. Microsoft left the meetings and filed a patent for work on which there already existed numerous RFCs (requests for consensus)--basically the legislation that runs the Internet.
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  3. An easier way? by TimeTraveler1884 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Given the net was designed for the whole community, it has done well to reach millions. If you want to reach the whole population, you have to make sure it can scale up.

    Wouldn't it just be easier to lower the population to millions rather than changing current infrastructure?

  4. OMG HE MADE TEH AL GORE FUNNY!!1eleven by daniil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, mate, this joke is so old it's about time it was put out of its misery (as it's no longer funny) and bury it under three miles of solid rock (otherwise, the stench would be unbearable).

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  5. Re:Mass media distribution by mboverload · · Score: 5, Insightful
    First we need download speeds that are even close to our Asian neighbors.

    It is pathetic that even poor people in South Korea have lines for 20 bucks a month at 25 mbps. America the leader in tech? I beg to differ.

  6. Uh-huh! by The-Bus · · Score: 5, Funny
    "If you want to reach the whole population, you have to make sure it can scale up."


    What that means to you, MBAs, is that it sounds like by i-deploying its cross-market and granular mix of best-of-breed technologies for today's e-enterprise, the interweb will finally be scalable!

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  7. Re:An observation on IPv6 by jrcamp · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Please read about Transition Mechanisms for IPv6.

    This is not an all or nothing thing. We do not have to turn out the lights on IPv4 before we can start utilizing IPv6.

  8. Re:Wow! think of all them IP addresses. by asdfghjklqwertyuiop · · Score: 4, Informative

    NAT is no substitute for real address space. The only reason so many people use it today is because real address space is too limited.

  9. NAT has other purposes by dpilot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    NAT is the ISPs way of keeping its subscribers in line, and acting as consumers rather than citizens. Given the TOS of my ISP, it just doesn't matter whether I get NATted, or not. Anything I could do that I can't do behind NAT isn't allowed.

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  10. Re:IPv6 is a hack by irix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IANA hasn't been handing out class A blocks "like tap water" for a long time. Sure, some organizations have too many addresses, but these were mainly organizations that pioneered the IP network and were handed these netblocks very early on.

    As an AC pointed out in an earlier response, NAT is the hack, not IPv6. It breaks end-to-end connectivity, and you have to jump through lots of hoops to get many protocols to work correctly. NAT was a measure that slowed the need for IPv6, but it didn't remove it.

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  11. Re:2.1? by BigPappa · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh yeah, lots of it. One of the things is IPv6 and multicast. The Abilene backbone (one of the I2's biggest) is entirely v6. The knowledge there on how it works on a grander scale is helping to tune and shape the works that come out of places like Cisco and Nortel. Thier code gets production tested first on Abilene and then to the big networks. We also get the new big routers to test with usually before anybody else does. If you go look at Abilene's website, you can see from the network graphic that it's pretty busy.

    Interestingly enough there seems to be a moving away from expensive ATM connectors to cheaper 10GigE connections. Our state network has just converted the backbone to GigE, and I expect that our connection to Abilene will change to that soon as well. I think ATM for medium length hauls will die out, only to be used on extra long hauls like across contries and oceans. I can see the big networks doing this to to cut down on costs and brainpower. ATM is just too complicated.