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Senator Clinton Slams GTA

Joining the ranks of such luminaries as Jack Thompson and Governor Blagojevich, GamesIndustry.biz has the word that Senator Hillary Clinton has joined right wing advocates in decrying the gaming industry as a paragon of loose morals and corrupting influences. From the article: "Children are playing a game that encourages them to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them...This is a silent epidemic of media desensitisation that teaches kids it's OK to diss people because they are a woman, they're a different colour or they're from a different place." Commentary available at The Australian. Update: 03/30 02:22 GMT by T : Thanks to reader mantle_etching, here is a link to the entire speech as delivered, so you can judge its content for yourself.

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  1. Re:Fantasy and reality by prell · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Are there any studies that link games to real life violence, discrimination, or any altered behavior at all?

  2. Re:Young Republicans by sjwaste · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At the same time I get my Republican Party back from the New Aged GOP that has started supporting Big Government, Business, and Big Spending.

    I'm wondering the same thing. Where'd all the real republicans go? The ones who don't pay subsidies to big business (and would've let some of the major airlines fold, to be replaced by more competitive ones) and don't spend needlessly on programs that aren't working or entire departments (the IRS could be mostly cut out in favor of a VAT, for example). Oh well, on the other hand, at least we're not as bad as most of the european countries in terms of the tax rate, spending, or unemployment (this isn't a swipe at europeans, many of your nations DO tax and spend more and have higher rates of unemployment).

  3. Maybe Yes, maybe a little of No by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting
    maybe i'm gittin' old... but GTA is pretty fvcking twisted for a 18 y.o. to be playing... sorry, but it really, really is morally vapid. game or no game, there's no need to plant those seeds.

    First off, this game isn't free, it's for profit. It's simply an escallation of a genre of game which probably are the merger of FPS, 1on1 combat and racing with a little RPG sprinkled over it to give it some place to go. What's probably a good exercise is trying to guess what the next iteration will be like.

    It really is pretty sorry when you realize you don't mind sitting at a screen and wiping out a bunch of lives. The thing of it is, you never realized yourself becoming less sensitive about life.

    When I came out of cancer treatment, something I wouldn't wish on anyone, I experienced a twinge at watching the Deathstar blow apart in Star Wars. You know that thing is full of people, many would not actually have been evil. Yet that's OK because it's fiction and they were serving the Empire, right?

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    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  4. Re:Fantasy and reality by frikazoyd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I actually did some research on this for a paper a while back. The one study that I saw that was of any interest goes as follows:

    Two sets of children, same age, same geographical area, same school, kept separate as much as possible to prevent "polluting".

    Set A: Given video games to play for X hours a day.

    Set B: No video games.

    I can't remember for sure, I'd have to dig it up again, but I believe that Set B also was limited on their television intake.

    Results: Set A children angered more easily and were more prone to hitting each other in play. Set B children were more patient, hit each other less, and had calmer attitudes.

    At best though, this is only one study, so it was careful to point out that this drew a "correlation" between more violent play, quick tempers, and Video Games. They didn't list what games were played, or any details on the children, so results are dubious at best.

    When I find a link, I'll paste it.

  5. Re:Fantasy and reality by Humorously_Inept · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It depends on who you ask. There are volumes of studies to both support and deny the assertion that video game violence trickles out into real life.

    Whereas private money used to fund research, it has now become research. Scientists and researchers, being that they are still human beings, are typically as close-minded as any fundies out there and they are as easily influenced by money, power, prestige and the need to protect that which they have achieved as the most corrupt politician.

    The scientific method is high school fodder. The new scienfitic method is as easily purchased as a loaf of bread.

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    ~Someday, I hope to be an aspiring author.
  6. Re:Fantasy and reality by Skye16 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Do you at least know what age these children were? I could easily see a 5 or 6 year old being more violent after excessively violent video games and tv shows, but I'm not so sure about a 16 year old, unless they had completely horrible parenting.

    Parents really need to be more in tune with violence in video games. My step brother was about 11 and was very prone to violence (not against people, but he was all about breaking things and punching holes in the wall). My dad had just married to his mom, so he didn't feel he was exactly in a position to put this brat in his place, but the point is, the kid was violent and got angry entirely too easily. For Christmas, he got a PlayStation 2. I talked to my Dad at some point before hand and told him "no matter what you do, do NOT get Matt any games that are rated M, it's probably not in his best interests". Then I find out a few weeks later, my dad or stepmom went out and bought him GTA3.

    I do take exception to people saying video games are the root of all evil. But I completely agree when people say they could - in conjunction with other factors - cause a child with many more social problems (ie: violence and the like, or, at the least, improper anger management). I was infuriated that my father had bought this kid GTA3. Frankly, if you wouldn't trust them with a gun, they shouldn't be playing that type of video game. I honestly think it was the only time in my adult life I ever yelled at my father. I yelled so much my voice turned hoarse over it. Even aside from the problems Matt had with anger management and violent disposition, 11 year olds don't need to be playing video games where the purpose of the game is to drive around, steal cars, shoot people, kill cops and screw hookers. When you're mature enough, fine, but the kid wouldn't even brush his teeth or take a shower if you didn't make him do it.

  7. Re:Or... by Some_Llama · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "My brother would never let his daughter play a game like Grand Theft Auto."

    I let my 9 year old daughter play it, guess what she did?

    She drove around in the taxi giving people rides or the fire truck/ambulence helping people...

    When she watched me play it she kept telling me "No don't shoot the people!!! Don't drive on the sidewalk!!! You're not supposed to be the bad guy!!"

    Maybe this can be taken as one of the "its a tool and depends on how you use it" arguements?

    Not everything is inherently bad or evil...

  8. $90million for a study? by HockeyPuck · · Score: 4, Interesting

    [Hillary Clinton] wants a $90 million investigation to be launched

    Who are they paying with this money? Do you really need $90million worth of research on this topic? Classrooms are overcrowded, people are going hungry, teachers are underpaid... the deficit is going up...

    Isn't there something more important to go after than this? This is EXACTLY what Bush did during the election by making gay marriage the issue of the election instead of the economy...

    All she's doing is grandstanding to get elected by the rightwing while calling herself a leftwing democrat.