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Production of Photon Processors Expected in 2006

ThinSkin writes "Photon processors that transmit data via light, not electrons, are slated to enter production in mid-2006, ExtremeTech reports. Headed by a UCLA professor and a Nobel Prize winner, startup Luxtera claims that its optical modulator clocks in at 10-GHz, tens times that of Intel's optical modulator researchers talked about last year. Since the optical module exists as its own entity, it will require a standard CMOS processes to integrate the optical waveguides. Luxtera has worked closely with Freescale Semiconductor to develop this technology."

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  1. Not a "Processor" by TopSpin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's high bandwidth (10Gbit/sec) small scale (130nm) modulation from CMOS to optical. This is not "processing" in the sense of optical logic.

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  2. Re:Error In The Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, you're wrong--electrons are particles of mass. They travel in waves, just like electromagnetic radiation (that is, light), and have a distinct De Broglie wavelength, but they are not, themselves, electromagnetic radiation.

  3. Bah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They'll just release the exact same chip as this guy in a year, only call it "Pentium 4 with photon extensions" and pretend they invented it.

  4. Article Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative


    minus the omniture spyware tracking and massive banners
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    Startup Luxtera has announced its plans to enter the CMOS photonics market, anticipating the day when microprocessors will transmit information via light, not electrons.

    The company claims that its optical modulator for transforming electrons into photons runs at 10-GHz, ten times the speed of an optical modulator Intel Corp. researchers began talking about last year. Beginning in mid-2006, Luxtera hopes to enter production of photonic devices using standard CMOS manufacturing processes. ADVERTISEMENT

    Although the majority of chip-to-chip communications are conducted using copper-based interconnects, researchers are already looking toward the day when the balance shifts toward optical transmissions, initially for chip-to-chip interfaces between microprocessors, or between a microprocessor and memory device. Fibre optics are a standard component of modern telecommunication infrastructures, and interfaces such as Fibre Channel also use optical fibre interconnects to link up devices.

    Although light slows down by some degree when transmitted through an optical medium, shifting to optical-based components is still too expensive than relying solely on copper, even when factoring in the additional power, heat, and crosstalk issues.

    "The problem here that we can solve is a matter of bandwidth," said Gabriele Sartori, Luxtera's vice president of marketing and a former advocate for the HyperTransport protocol developed by Advanced Micro Devices.

    Part of the relatively high cost of photonics comes from the fact that converting electrons to photons requires an intermediary device, such as the modulator Luxtera is designing. Today, that device exists as a separate module. Intel, Luxtera, and others are trying to integrate the optical waveguides within standard CMOS processes, that can be controlled by the standard voltage swings of a microprocessor.

    However, doing so requires that the optical vendor have close ties to a microprocessor manufacturer. At Intel, that's no problem. Luxtera, on the other hand, has worked closely with Freescale Semiconductor to develop the technology. Finding a partner like Freescale is "necessary," Sartori said. "You must walk before you can run."

    Freescale has taped out several engineering samples of the optical technology, including a chip, one side of which includes the optical interface built in. The sample chip use a 130-nm SOI process, the same technology used to fabricate the G4 microprocessor. Part of Luxtera's job has been to develop silicon libraries, the files used to design the photonic chips in the same way other libraries serve as the blueprint for making more conventional semiconductors.

    The 32-employee startup originally received $7 million funding from Sevin Rosen Funds and August Capital in 2001, followed by an additional $15 million by New Enterprise Associates in 2003. Eli Yablonovitch, a professor at UCLA who developed photoelectronic crystals, sits on the company's board, while Arno Penzias, who won the 1978 Nobel Prize for his work on the Big Bang theory, serves in an advisory role. Other board members include Andy Rappaport of August Capital, which funded Transmeta, among others.

  5. Re:Error In The Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The only thing I know about duality is that I'll be seeing this article again tomorrow.

  6. Re:How long until... by Rei · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, it is a multiplier, even if it's not the only factor...

    Of course, it just amazes me to think about. With a main clock cycle of 10 billion cycles per second, there would actually be fractional cycles going on at hundreds of billions of cycles per second. The number is staggering; a couple hundred billion times the width of the outer layer of your skin would reach to the moon. The photons will travel through hundreds of thousands of hand-designed gates at the tiniest of scales.

    And, of course, the most common usage for this marvel of modern engineering will be to provide better lighting effects in video games. :P

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  7. Re:Uh, okay by TopSpin · · Score: 5, Informative

    And who gets to use these?

    Whoever can afford them.

    Are these like only special coprocessors for million-dollar supercomputers?

    No. These are not "processors" of any sort. It is a new way to modulate signal between CMOS and optical at high frequency and small scale. It may provide faster bus speeds, assuming the reality matches the funding hype.

    Are they going to be x86-compatible? MIPS compatible? What?

    It will be "compatible" with any CMOS device that needs a bus to communicate with some other device. Since that includes all useful CMOS devices, it will be compatible with everything!

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  8. Re:How long until... by ciroknight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No offense, but we're more likely to see this kind of technology being used to make movies before video games. Hear me out.

    When newer processor technologies are developed, they're almost always deligated to server processors before they trickle down to desktop processors. (Of course, there are exceptions: MMX and its spawn, etc).
    br. I can't wait to see Pixar pick up the Apple Xserves based on an optical interconnected chip. The movies they'd makewould only get more spectacular.

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  9. solution for wiring problem? by tubbtubb · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually this is less dissappointing that I originally thought --
    A major problem as CMOS processes get smaller and smaller is wires and wiring. Its really bad at 90nm and it looks like its going to be way worse at 65nm.
    Even if optical interconnects can just be used for long intra-unit busses (think L1 cache to fetch/decode unit, and there to integer unit and float unit, etc) we could see great performance gains.
    Something like when the upper metal layers in CMOS went to copper a few years ago.

  10. Optical interconnects by karvind · · Score: 5, Informative
    The summary is misleading (as pointed out by other readers) as it is more of optical interconnect technology.

    Other groups working on optical interconnects: (incomplete list)

    Heriot Watt

    Cornell University

    IBM Zurich

    Delft

    UIUC

    Intel

    Stanford

  11. Perfect! by RobertKozak · · Score: 5, Funny


    Now when I find a bug in my code I can just reconfigure the photonic matrix and reverse the polarity of the power coupling.

    And if that doesn't work I'll try modulating the field harmonics.

    This can really save me in a tight situation.

    Robert

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  12. Just a modulator by Laaserboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the Article:

    The company claims that its optical modulator for transforming electrons into photons runs at 10-GHz

    I may not have a Nobel Prize, but I do have a Ph.D. in physics. Electrons do not tranform into photons. They may produce photons, but not turn into them.

    I see these articles that claim the creation of optical processors. But read the article, and all the researchers have to do is add a silicon processor and BOOM, we have an optical processor. It's not that easy.

    I remember the researcher who created an optical computer that was the size of a room. Why is this? Electrons are small. They bend around corners. They stay put. They move when you want them to. Photons do not bend well around small corners, do not support CMOS-like circuits and generally fail at most tasks of that versatile, tiny doer of great deeds, the electron.

    As usual, it's just an optical modulator. Boring old modulator.

  13. Latency != Frequency by Corpus_Callosum · · Score: 5, Informative
    No you can't. Light is limited to c, just like the E field in the wires. At 3e8m/s, and a distance of 50cm to memory bit, that would take 0.5/3e8 ~ 1.7ns minimum for one way trip. That takes over 3ns to get to memory and back (ignoring any switching delays). 3ns makes the memory access time equivelent to about 333MHz.
    I think you are confusing latency and frequency. There are serious problems with long wires and high frequency because of parasitic effects. Light eliminates these parasitic effects, enabling a much higher bus frequency (clock rate).

    It may take a few nanoseconds for the light to bounce around, but that light can be modulated at extremely high rates (that electrical wires cannot). Managing latency is a well understood problem, generally solved by using speculation, buffering, etc..

    The fact is, if these parts are running at 10ghz, you will have 10ghz connections between connected parts (with a few nanoseconds of latency, which is mostly irrelevant).

    What light gives you is more *bandwidth*. That also means you CPU will not run any faster, but it should be able to access to more memory at once. Multi-core/multi-thread processors like what SUN is advertising would benefit a lot from this technology. Single thread processors like P4 will not see any benefit.
    Bandwidth is a measure of frequency and number of communication channels. This advancement does indeed provide more bandwidth, mostly because it can be clocked higher. All computer configurations could see substantial benefits because current electrical designs have highly limited bus speeds (it is not signal propagation that matters, but signal modulation speed "frequency").

    Anyway, current access times are now limited by the speed of light, so I guess it will not be getting too much faster.
    Again, signal propagation speed is mostly irrelevant. Signal modulation speed is what is important. Latency != Frequency.
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