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Alan Cox on How Linux Can Survive Without Linus

zigam writes "In another great episode of LUGRadio, kernel hacker Alan Cox talks about the kernel development process, DRM, and how Linux can survive without Linus. The usual disclaimer about British gits swearing and ranting about open source applies."

25 comments

  1. Cursing by darkov · · Score: 4, Funny

    British gits swearing and ranting about open source applies

    "You pint fisted wank stain!"

    That's gold...

    1. Re:Cursing by mrevell · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did we really say that? Crumbs. What is open source without the odd rant, tho', eh? :)

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    2. Re:Cursing by darkov · · Score: 0

      Your show sounds like a bunch of yobs going on about football...

    3. Re:Cursing by biglig2 · · Score: 1

      Fried gold?

      (If you don't get the Spaced reference, then can I point out that it is a award-winning sitcom, one of whose main characters works in a comic book shop. What are you doing not buying the DVD right now?)

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    4. Re:Cursing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually "tightfisted" not "pint fisted" wank stains.

  2. Hmmm by EnglishTim · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not listened to Lugradio before.

    Too much nervous laughter for my tastes.

    1. Re:Hmmm by mrevell · · Score: 1

      Hey, it worked for Beavis and Butthead! :)

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      Matthew Revell www.lugradio.org
    2. Re:Hmmm by SA+Stevens · · Score: 1

      I recently was going through old CDROM disks here and came up with the MP3 recordings of 'Geeks In Space' parts 1 through four. That's 'Slashdot Radio' for those who don't remember it. Rob Malda and crew doing a Voice-based audio program.

      Umm....

  3. A transcript... a transcript... by advocate_one · · Score: 3, Insightful
    my keyboard for a transcript....

    well at least the download's fast from the mirror I've chosen... :)

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    Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
    1. Re:A transcript... a transcript... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "my keyboard for a transcript...."

      An excellent idea. Just type out everything they say.

  4. Desktop environments versus window managers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was surprised to hear them discussing desktop environments versus window managers. I thought everyone knew about that and had concluded that DEs suck ;)

    Anyway, I just thought I'd mention WindowLab, a really fast and clever little WM. It might not have loads of features but I'd love to see some of it's ideas appear in other WMs or even DEs...

  5. One man software by paulatz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Many open source project are one-man project, so they could be heavily damage by the departure of eveane a single persone.

    You remeber what happened whith Slackware when Patrick Volkerding was really sick? What would have happened if he had abandoned the maintainance of his distribution?

    I think that the history of open source is far too short to answer these questions, but, sooner or later, all the pioneers of open source will retire.

    I hope they will realize when the time will come to gradually drop their responsibilities and their influence. I also think that Richard Stallman is a good example, he has already started to retire from active development and even his leadership is becoming less practical and (even) more ideological.

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    1. Re:One man software by real+gumby · · Score: 4, Informative

      Indeed, RMS ceded control, but remember that control of GCC essentially had to be yanked away and placed into a steering committee

      No matter who you are, these transitions are never easy. Linus has set Linux up better than most projects, but still there is by design one central kernel (a very good design by the way, so far, for now, and for quite a while to come).

    2. Re:One man software by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

      How about "Openix" for the sake of OpenSource. I am in huge favor of changing the name while he's alive and kicking.

    3. Re:One man software by hazah · · Score: 1

      Any open source project will survive based on how useful it is. It has nothing to do with who is maintaining it now. If people *need* this project alive, they will find a way to keep it so. Remember, this is OPEN source, which means that the source can be picked up by anyone. Even if this doesn't happen for a while, it will happen. While the history is shortlived in terms of giving you a reference example of something similar, it remains a vital clue. Hints of these trends are everywhere. Just think of XFree86 and the emergence of XOrg. One was seen to be doomed, but the piece of software is invaluable. People quickly remedied the situation. I could be wrong.

  6. Without Linus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Alan Cox talks about the kernel development process, DRM, and how Linux can survive without Linus"

    Why, does he have something sinister planned?

    1. Re:Without Linus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ooh, watch out for those lefties

    2. Re:Without Linus? by quarkscat · · Score: 1

      Alan Cox might not have something sinister planned
      for Linus, but you can believe that one or two
      aphabet soup government agencies (and at least
      one mega-corporation (cough*MSFTcough*)) might
      have such contingency plans.

      No single corporation, that draws in over $30B
      USD per year, has more to fear from the F/OSS
      movement than MSFT. And as one of the bigger
      IT players in the USA's GNP (and with potential
      stranglehold on the fortune & future of many
      foreign governments & corporations), America's
      current regime in power might want to "assist".

      Just how many security holes have been put in
      (or not fixed in) MSFT OSes that the US govt.
      is privy to? Countries and big companies that
      get to see MSFT OS source code also sign NDAs --
      but sometimes actions speak louder than words.
      How long did it take for the PRC to announce their
      very own GNU/linux distribution after having seen
      MSFT OS source code?

  7. What If Linus Torvalds Gets Hit By A Bus? by psergiu · · Score: 2, Funny
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    1. Re:What If Linus Torvalds Gets Hit By A Bus? by 0racle · · Score: 1

      What if Guido was hit by a bus. Open source people are so morbid. Apperently they think followers of other languages are dangerous.

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      "I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
  8. Of course it can survive... by suitepotato · · Score: 1

    ...the matter is what form will it take? Will it get dispersed like foamy effervescence on a freshly poured glass of Coca-Cola in the organic morass that Open Source is becoming, which could end up being called Open Sore if it goes south? Or will it become like Debian where we can come up with more distros than AOL has CDs to push but still not change the fact that the core is the same-old same-old?

    I don't let this worry me. If it is worth surviving, those who use it will cause it to by demand because someone always is there to fulfill that demand. With the exception of my demand for free laptop night at the ballpark of course.

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  9. The core of Debian is excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    which is the reason most individuals and small organizations that want to create their own Linux distro base it on Debian. Debian itself is not specialized, so it's optimal to use as a base for more specialized distributions like Knoppix and Mepis.

  10. But.... by mormop · · Score: 1
    The usual disclaimer about British gits swearing and ranting about open source applies.

    You need to bear in mind that now that our coal and steel industries are near non-existent, manufacturing exports are shafted by the high value of the pound and Britain is governed by a group of people for whom mediocrity is a desirable state, swearing and ranting is one of the few sports we British gits can compete in at a world class level.

    That and our top class cynicism skills are the few things we have to comfort ourselves during our post imperial hangover.

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