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Novell's Race Against Time

DiamondGeezer writes "The Guardian newspaper in the UK reports in 'It's a race against time' that Novell is on a knife-edge financially and competitively, having placed a huge one-way bet in the success of its Linux strategy. But there's no guarantee of success: its revenue from Linux licensing is puny, and it faces a crowded market of Linux distros. Novell may be getting some positive press now that it's gone full tilt for Linux, but let's remember the reasons why: because of mis-steps of its previous management (especially the disastrous acquisition of WordPerfect in the mid 1990s) and its failure to grow its Netware business (with more than a little help from Microsoft), it's now having to re-engineer itself for Linux."

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  1. Questions on viability of NLD by sanityspeech · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is Novell deserving of the support that the Open Source Software (OSS) community can provide to increase the odds of success regarding its Linux push?

    If so, what can the average Linux user do to help (besides switching to Novell Linux Desktop (NLD) or becoming a shill?)

    If not, why not?

  2. Novel's Netware failure is their own fault... by WhataFreak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Netware didn't just fail "with more than a little help from Microsoft". It failed because (and it kills me to say this), Windows NT was a better product than Netware in just about any way imaginable. I remember when I made the switch in my career from Netware to NT. I can't think of anything that Netware did better than Windows NT. Netware pretty much sucked ass...

    I must admit that it was very early in my IT career that I made this switch. Perhaps my inexperience in Netware had something to do with my opinion of it.

  3. IBM buy-out? by Nick+Driver · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been thinking for a while, from just before the start of the SCO vs IBM circus, that Novell is getting ripe for being bought out by IBM. Anyone else concurr?

  4. The problem is Utah by wheelbarrow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The biggest problem Novell has is attracting the best and brightest software engineers. This is because a lot of Novell engineering is done in Provo Utah. Life in Provo is not for everyone. It is beautiful but it is one of those one company towns. If your job there does not work out then you'll have to relocate for your next job. The cost of living in Silicon Valley is high but a great engineer can find a new high paying job within a matter of days. Provo does not offer that.

  5. Disastrous acquisition of WordPerfect? by Beolach · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While I can't argue much against that statement, I really wish it hadn't been disastrous. WordPerfect has always been my favorite word processing suite, and I wish Novell still owned it, and would give better Linux support than the wishy-washy stuff Corel's been doing.

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  6. Beat RedHat by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At the moment in my place of employment, we want to run Debian on some custom hardware (but alas, Debian won't work on it - despite many hack attempts), because we just find RPMs too hard to manage and apt-get + aptitude to ge great.

    Employing someone to waste time trying to install Debian on something which cannot guarantee a pay off is not fun, and is a waste of money as well for the customer.

    The thing is, the hardware vendor doesn't take Debian seriously (because it's not backed by a company with resources), so there is no driver disk or hardware support.

    What I am trying to say is this:- there is a niche here that needs to be filled. There is a need for companies with the ability to back Linux distros, even if just for customer peace of mind. They will pay money for it. So far, only RedHat is being taken seriously commercially IMHO.

    There is no "swamped" Linux market, or at least, not in my situation as far as I can tell. Only blimmin' RedHat Linux is supported and will install on our blade server.....

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  7. other options by satsuke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I don't doubt that Novell has taken a large risk with playing "the linux card", I don't see them in any immediate danger of financial difficulty.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=NOVL&annual

    While their installed base is certainly not what it once was, they have a solid reputation, still significant installed base, and from what I remember, a decent size pile of cash (771,844 at last quarterly report) to fall back on.

    In other words, exactly where SCO might have been if they had not made a different sort of bet. (i.e. running a business of making products, selling support and consulting services, etc. Not to start an SCO love fest, but once upon a time they were a well regarded company).

  8. Was buying Ximian such a great idea? by aCapitalist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was thinking about this the other day after watching the BrainShare video.

    All the stuff that will actually increase sales is based on Suse (clustering, Xen, etc...).

    Why didn't they try to buy Trolltech instead of Ximian.

    I just don't see how Mono is going to help the bottom line in the near term.

    Heck, I would've have bought Trolltech, and slapped some proprietary apps into Suse. There's got to be a competitive advantage somewhere, and I don't know how just services is going to give them that.

    Suse was already pretty much a KDE distro, and buying Trolltech would have given them two things.

    (1) The ability to change the Qt license to a more liberal one.

    (2) Bring in the talent of Trolltech that is already accustomed to working with Suse.

    KDE/QT still has a superior framework to Gnome/Gtk+, but frankly I see the Qt license being the one showstopper that will push Gnome/Gtk+ into the "standard" desktop category, once Linux on the desktop actually matters.

  9. Troll here often? by Arker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Netware didn't just fail "with more than a little help from Microsoft". It failed because (and it kills me to say this), Windows NT was a better product than Netware in just about any way imaginable

    ROFL. Yeah, right, sure. And rocks fall upward, and the moon is made of green cheese...

    I administered Novell and NT both back in the days you're talking about. Netware 3.x beat NT 3.x so badly, on every possible applicable point, not even the most incompetent admin would have ever made the claim you just did with a straight face.

    Microsoft PAYED my employer a huge sum to partially replace our Netware server with an NT 3.5 server. That little netware server was keeping the office served so far as email, web gateway, and file and print serving without a problem. NT on a slightly faster machine proved itself incapable of handling the EMAIL ALONE for the same office, and this AFTER having guys from MS fly down to work on it every couple of weeks for six months.

    On top of lack of functionality and lack of stability, it was also impossible to properly admin. It was a total POS and everyone knew it. Even the PHBs were totally upfront about it - they knew it was trash. But whenever we had a problem, MS cut a check (or something to the same end effect) to more than cover the losses.

    That's how they won. Novel certainly made mistakes, but that doesn't change the fact that their product was vastly superior and defeated on grounds other than technical.

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  10. Re: cashflow & Market share by wiresquire · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having done some research on Novell about 6 months ago, there's some things that are not pointed out in the article that relate directly to cashflow.

    It is true that their share of server sales has dwindled from a high of 80% down to low double digits. You can actually see that the impact of the introduction of WinNT. Over more recent years, the decline is actually due to Linux. What people frequently misunderstand is that this relates to NEW server sales.

    What is not mentioned is the actual installed base. In this arena, Novell is huge. IIRC, a study that I saw put it at something like 3 to 5 million machines are running Netware.That's far more than all *nix combined, and was only matched by Windows.

    Installed base == support/maintenance/upgrade revenue - ie services revenue. Novell has a cash cow there, that's for sure. Check out their 10Qs. And I should note that all their other 'businesses' - be it identity or ex Collabra or whatever are basically immaterial in comparison to their "software division formerly known as Netware".

    But that revenue is still not sufficient. It was clear that if they didn't buy SUSE, they would lose their installed base to Linux for file/print services over time. And BTW, the Linux NEW server sales have been increasing rapidly. I always see that Linux is increasing at the expense of Windows and/or Unix, but never Novell. That is what surprised me most in my travels....

    Obviously, migrating existing customers from Netware to Linux doesn't prevent leakage to either Windows or other Linux flavors, but now, they at least have a clear path for customers, and it will probably be the easiest path for their installed base.

    Anways, that's my rant. And I wish Novell the best of luck. Successful linux companies will mean even better corporate acceptance.

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  11. Re:No by jadavis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Except that's illegal fot a monopoly.

    I doubt that matters. It's not really law anyway, because it's open to wildly varying interpretations. Law is objective, anti-trust "law" is subjective.

    Really, who would sue? Novell couldn't last that long in court without cashflow. However long they could last would probably just result in a settlement much less generous than that with Sun & MS.

    So let's say a state or the feds sue. MS would just drag it out, and since there is no smoking gun, nothing will really happen. What if the states win? What do they do? Anything the states do against MS would just be hitting the stockholders. And by stockholders, I mean the retired people living on diversified investment income. The execs have already made the money from the "anticompetitive" behavior, probably much of it in terms of huge bonuses.

    Anti trust law is a mess. It doesn't really accomplish anything. After all, they went after IBM, and what happened? Now we have MS. Nothing was solved.

    I'll tell you what REALLY solves the problem. Instead of a state suing, why doesn't it just boycott MS products? Same with the feds. I bet the monopoly would be broken very quickly. Remember, the states are the ones perpetuating the MS monopoly by buying huge amounts of software and introducing it in schools. If California stopped buying, that alone would fracture the market enough to destroy the technology monoculture.

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  12. Not a legend, true story... by ninejaguar · · Score: 4, Interesting
    There is a good reason why the old IT urban legend of the server being drywalled in for years before anyone noticed was running Netware.

    Not an urban legend. We (IT) lost track of a NetWare 3.x server used by a small (less than 100) department in a large (more than 20,000) entertainment company.

    When it was time to upgrade the department's LAN from TokenRing to Ethernet, we couldn't locate this server. The clients had no idea where it was. They only knew that the all-important J: drive on their PC was there before they were.

    It turns out that there used to be a janitor's closet behind shelves, and a large desk pushed up against the shelves, that no one in that department had ever remembered being opened. Certainly no one had the key for it. When it was finally opened, there was the 3.x, chugging away without a care in the world. I don't remember what the box was, but I doubt it held more than 16 megs of RAM.

    By that time, the company had pretty gone the Microsoft route, and we were all weary of dealing with the christmas lights like nature of a WindowsNT based network. Needless to say, we were amused and more than a little impressed by this little-engine-that-could.

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