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Washington Post: Criticizing Leaders is Wrong

Dazan writes: "The Washington Post has an interesting op-ed piece on its website today, Mr. Wolfowitz and the Bank. The Post, a popular liberal paper, says that now that Paul Wolfowitz is heading the World Bank, 'People... should think carefully before they damage [the Bank] by attacking its new boss,' and that bringing up Wolfowitz's record is unhealthy. Of course it doesn't hurt for us all to watch what we say, expecially our newspapers. What does the Slashdot community think?"

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  1. A Wolf In Wolf's Clothing by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Warmonger Wolfowitz could show some of the humility and courage John Paul II has, change the world through dialogue, rather than engineering tragic events so conveniently you may exert your will by force upon an unpopular adversary.

    The Cold War is over, one hero lies dying, one monster is elevated to a position to restrict the flow of aid to countries which don't fall into line. Call a Spade a Spade. That's what the 1st Amendment is really for.

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  2. Well, clearly that's B.S.... by Jooly+Rodney · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...but "liberal" newspapers often have conservative stuff show up on their op-ed page -- witness David Brooks @ NYT.

  3. Why should Wolfowitz be World Bank Prez? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I mean, come on, why the hell would a Pentagon official, the very guy who started the Iraq War, be a good person to help 3rd world countries? Does this suggest something? Am I thinking what you're thinking?

    1. Re:Why should Wolfowitz be World Bank Prez? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "The World Bank is for fighting poverty in third world nations."

      I think you mean "The World Bank is fighting for poverty in third world nations," according to Greg Palast's investigative journalism.

    2. Re:Why should Wolfowitz be World Bank Prez? by Clod9 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Fighting Poverty" -- yeah, by lending money to governments whose officials then waste it/parcel it out to cronies/squirrel it away in offshore accounts, and then future generations of those nations' poor can be enslaved as these debtor nations go grovelling back to the World Bank to get more loans just to pay the INTEREST on what they got before. That's fighting poverty, all right!

    3. Re:Why should Wolfowitz be World Bank Prez? by davesag · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you must be thinking of a different world bank. The World Bank always has been an instrument of US Power Projection and nothing more. It has worked well to suck what remaining economic life remains from developing nations. Only developing countries who rejected the World bank's Structural Adjustment Programmes (SAPs) have prospered at all. Those who followed the SAPs got right royally fucked in the ass; just as they were supposed to. Wofi is the natural best choice for the world bank and is sure to advance their already well developed program for strip mining the rest of the planet.

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  4. The Slashdot community by As+Seen+On+TV · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Slashdot community really, really wishes that the Slashdot management would stop posting flamebait stories to drive up page views.

  5. Well... by cy_a253 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "What does the Slashdot community think?"

    Well, at the speed new stories are being posted, this one will scroll off the main page before anyon...

  6. Screw Washington Post by roman_mir · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Screw Pope
    Screw RMS
    Screw Blair
    Screw Putin
    Screw April
    Screw May
    Screw that nice looking chick across the street
    aah, screw it.

  7. Re:What happened to the first amendment? by As+Seen+On+TV · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The fact that you have a right to say something doesn't mean that it's right to say that thing. There's such a thing as restraint, you know?

    Reasonable people can differ on what things it's okay to say. But all people should be able to agree that restraint is a virtue.

  8. Quite the misrepresentation... by David+Ziegler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The submitter seemed to read what seemed to fit his view. The quote with context:

    People who care about this institution and its mission -- as many of Mr. Wolfowitz's detractors do -- should think carefully before they damage it by attacking its new boss. Criticism of Mr. Wolfowitz's agenda for the bank may be healthy once that agenda emerges. But preemptive condemnation because of the Iraq war is not.

    To be more precise, the article (for those of you who haven't read it) says that Wolfowitz should not be prematurely criticized because of his role in the Iraq war.

    Mr. Wolfowitz's critics, domestic as well as international, should now get beyond their dislike of his role in the Iraq war and give him a chance to succeed at one of the world's hardest jobs.

    All the Washington Post's editors are saying is that we should criticize him for the work he does at the World Bank, not for past deeds.

  9. Oh, Gee, Just another April Fools joke... by StevenMaurer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... wait a minute ... it isn't

    Two thoughts:

    #1 What a sublime joke from the Slashdot editors, slipping in a real news article among the obvious jokes. A NASA paper airplane is far more believable than thinking the Washington Post editoralizing like Pravda. I was suitably misled.

    #2 Be afraid for our nation. Be very afraid.

  10. Can the Title be any more Misleading? by popo · · Score: 4, Insightful


    The article doesn't suggest that criticising leaders is wrong in any way. What it does suggest is that perhaps Europeans were somewhat hypocritical in their objections to Wolfowitz.

    Once again we're forced to recognise that 'there are no good guys' in government -- either American or European.

    Yes it is wrong for the Europeans to be *more* critical of Wolfowitz than any other European candidate (as European selection processes and motivations are no more or less egalitarian than America's). But what we should (and by 'we' I mean Europeans and Americans) all be doing is being more critical of leadership in general.

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  11. I don't think people read the article... by SkankinMonkey · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The guy is saying don't criticize Wolfowitz just because of his connection to the Iraqi War, wait until he has actually started doing something within the bank and see what he does. He might not be evil after all, is the hope of the editor, I believe.

  12. Honeymoon/Probation time for "Individual/Role? by apenzott · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't believe that skeleton autopsies will matter much considering the menagerie we currently have at the UN from all countries.

    Dialog at this point is best limited to the following:

    o What is your agenda in solving this problem with ...?
    o What mistakes will you try to avoid in your new role?
    o How will you build consensus with other world players?
    o How will make the results of your department visible to the world and insure that all transactions are on the up-and-up?
    o To what special interests are you beholden to?
    o Under what circumstances/conflicts would you resign to protect the World Bank?

    (Yes I am being blisfully ignorant of his past.)
    (Perhaps this would be snowballed into a Slashdot Interview.B=)

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  13. I disagree by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So if the guy's a dangerous, unprincipled hack, with a history of putting corporate profit ahead of human rights and life, we should just ignore all the past evidence of that and wait and see what happens when he runs the freaking World Bank?!

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  14. Date? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    No one noticed that this editorial is from _yesterday_? "Thursday, March 31, 2005"

  15. this isn't an accident by idlake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bush may be a moron, but his administration isn't stupid. When they appoint people like Wolfowitz or Bolton to participate in international organizations, they know full well what the consequences are inevitably going to be.

    If people acquiesce like the WP suggests, then you just let these people get away with murder. If you speak up and expose these people for what they are, then you do indeed risk of damaging those organizations, but if people like those can come to power in those organizations, then maybe there is something fundamentally wrong with the way those organizations are set up, and maybe those organizations should be replaced.

  16. Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Pre-emptive war is ok, but pre-emptive criticism is bad?!

  17. Re:What does the Slashdot community think? by Morlark · · Score: 2, Insightful
    As I am reading TFA now, I cannot conceive of how any rightly thinking person could possibly believe the sheer amount of tripe that this poor excuse for a newspaper provides. Do people actually pay for the dead tree version of this? I'm completely shocked as to how this can possibly be called journalism. That article is so wrong on so many levels that I just don't know where to begin.

    The article says that the World will approved a highly controversial dam in Laos, noting that this dam will endanger the environment and the indigenous people's lifestyle. In the past projects similar to this have been shown to have caused irreperable damage to the environment. And how does the article justify this? Laos needs 'electricity and development'. A dam like this isn't going to improve the quality of life overnight. There are far more effective ways to help developing countries, both economically and environmentally. I really don't understand why the World Bank keeps on pushing dangerous projects like this without any recourse to common sense.

    And then "People who care about this institution and its mission -- as many of Mr. Wolfowitz's detractors do -- should think carefully before they damage it by attacking its new boss." I think that statement is hugely inflated with hyperbole. I say that leaders should be criticised. No leader is going to do things in such a way as to satisfy everybody, and so if a leader exists that doesn't have their detractors, I'd say that's a fair indication that somebody is suppressing free speech. And by telling people not to criticise Wolfowitz, that's exactly what the Post is trying to do. Sure, it's a very minor attempt, and not entirely effective, but that's how these things always start out, with little insignificant things. And lets face it, Wolfowitz has done some bad things in the past, so there is no reason why he shouldn't be criticised.

    This article also assumes that the people doing the 'attacking' do care about the institution. I certainly don't. I reckon we'd all me much better off if the World Bank had never existed. I read another comment saying how the World Bank shouldn't cancel the debts of developing countries, because their whole purpose is to give out loans. But this comment misses a very fundamental point. Banks don't give out loans to people who can't repay them. For a start it's not ethical. And yet the World Bank encourages the developing countries to take out huge loans, knowing that these countries would be indebted to them for ever. That's right, interest on these loans is piling up faster than the countries can repay, so the loans will never be paid off. If any normal bank tried a scam like this, they'd be in court faster than you can scream "Cancel the debt!" If developing countries had been allowed to develop at their own pace, without any meddling from oppurtunistic money grabbers like this, they would be far more developed than they are now.

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