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Microsoft Sues 117 Phishers

An anonymous reader writes "Earlier this week Microsoft filed 117 John Doe cases today to learn the identity of scam artists who have been targeting its Hotmail and MSN customers in phishing scams, according to a Washington Post story. This is the same tactic the music and motion picture industries have used to mixed success against file-swappers, except in this case the ISPs themselves are some of the biggest targets of phishing scams. The story says the tactic has already worked once for Microsoft; in a case last year where ISP subpoenas led to a kid in Iowa who was caught phishing MSN users from his grandpa's dial-up account. The 21-year-old was ordered to pay Microsoft $3 million, but I doubt his job at Blockbuster is going to make a dent in that debt."

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  1. I got a better idea. by Threatis · · Score: 5, Funny

    lets just instate a cull. give us all "Phishing Hunting" licenses, and let us roam the country side with the weapons of our choice.

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  2. There is a big difference... by nebaz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    between file swapping and phishing.

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  3. Make Money Fast! by jokestress · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just googled the phisher king's name and saw a few MMF spams from 1999 with that name and a Davenport street address. Coincidence?

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  4. Re:This isn't an april fools joke guys. by aixou · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's the problem? Phishing scams need to be stopped, plain and simple.

    Now that more and more of the "unwashed masses" are using online services like Paypal and eBay, phishing scams are all over the place. It's getting a little ridiculous. These phishers need to be sent to Federal "pmita" Prison sooner rather than later.
    Phishers of that type (those stealing money and credit card numbers) lack integrity and they lack honor, and they need to be put away.

  5. Phishing != File trading by sfcat · · Score: 5, Informative
    Let's see here, in one case you are stealing actual money from the general public. In the other case, you are trading some copyrighted work that you already own. In addition, file trading isn't stealing, it is a violation of copyright law. Also, there is a reason to believe that file trading actually helps the artists by increasing the public's awareness of their music/art/whatever.

    I can't believe that the slashdot editors greenlighted such a poorly worded post on the front page. At the very least, they should have edited the post before putting it on the front page. WTF, they should know the different between file trading and phishing.

    Oh, they should string up the phishers by their thumbs. Good for MS (I don't believe I just wrote that, it really is April Fools Day)

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    1. Re:Phishing != File trading by jxyama · · Score: 4, Insightful
      >there is a reason to believe that file trading actually helps the artists by increasing the public's awareness of their music/art/whatever.

      i always hate this line of reasoning. the fact is, whether or not filesharing helps the actual copyright holder is irrelevant. you don't have the right to re-distribution, plain and simple. let the copyright holder decide for him/herself if they want to allow sharing. otherwise, it's just poor attempt at justifying copyright infringement.

      i have the right to determine who enters my house. even if there are outsiders that can help me out, ultimately i make the decision whether or not they enter my house.

  6. Bang the Bum Slowly by Stanistani · · Score: 5, Funny

    It pounds, the drum, the drum, the drum
    The tumbril rolls to its slow beat
    Condemned and damned besot with rum
    the doomed kneels down his doom to meet

    His neck will feel the sharpened blade
    his sand of life drifts thru the sieve
    Fish not in royal ponds or glade
    If long you have a wish to live

    doom to phishers

  7. Hehe by kernel_dan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microsoft doing something for their customers? That cracks me up every time.

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  8. Pathetic Wording! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In my years of reading slashdot, this is one of the most horribly worded article submissions.

    Does slashdot editors consider music sharing in the same light as phishing/spamming and the magic love pill? The teenager seems to be mentioned on the same lines of the other youngsters who were targetted by the RIAA.

    In related news, which company makes the most focused effort to bringing the spam-pigs to justice? Check Here

    I can see only one reason for all this. Its Microsoft!

  9. Re:This isn't an april fools joke guys. by dsginter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's really funny is that the submitter tried to make MS look like the bad guy. In reality, what MS have done is good for everyone who wants to use the internet legitimately.

    I believe that's what they call "spin".

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  10. No it's quite relivant by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How severe a crime is normally comes from what kind of harm it causes. Murder is a very severe crime since the harm is massive. Shoplifing is quite a minor crime since the harm is minimal. Speeding is just a civil matter, since there is no direct harm (just an increased probability of a mistake causing harm).

    The way the MPAA/RIAA/etc talk about file sharing, they act like it's on the severity level of grand theft or so. They act as though massive amounts of actual harm are being caused. Thus they argue for stiff penalities, currently lawsuits in the hundreds of millions of dollars, and they want a law making it criminal carrying prison time.

    In actuality, file sharing is like speeding. There is no direct harm. There is no loss of money, since they never had the money in the first place. There is a potential loss of money, since you now have something you potentially might have paid for, but then a bad review, friend's suggestion, or alternate product can cause the same thing. Also, even the potential loss is small.

    Now phishing is a moderatly severe crime. It causes serious economic damage to the victim (phishers generally take them for all they can) as well as damage to their credit, which is difficult to repair, and the necessity to essentially recreate one's identity. The harm is very real, not at all potential.

    Thus it's quite relivant to point out the difference. One is a much more severe crime. I fully support agressive tactics and stiff punishments to shut down and convict phishers, just as I do for armed robbers, car thieves and so on. I do not support agressive tactics and stiff punishments to shot down file sharers, any more than I do speeders, those that litter, underage drinkers and so on.

  11. Why is a 21-year old man described as a "kid"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Surely somebody who has reached the age of 21-years should no longer be considered a kid in any sense of the word? Is labelling him a "kid" somehow meant to explain or even excuse his actions?