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How Motherboards Are Made

Techno-consumerist writes "Ever wonder how motherboards are made? How all those little electronic bits and pieces are put in place, and how each board is tested? PCstats takes a look behind the scenes of the Nan-Ping Gigabyte factory in Taiwan, and documents the amazingly complicated process from start to finish. Very cool, but surprising about how much labour goes into each board."

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  1. Profit margin? by Mortiss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With the amount of work going into making of each motherboard and cosidering the amount of automation in the process how much does it exactly cost to make a single m/b? What is the profit margin when it arrives at my local computer store counter?

    1. Re:Profit margin? by Klivian · · Score: 3, Interesting

      >Compared to how much they pay the workers Not so, the profit margin on the manufacturing part are low compared to the other cost. Having worked for 5+ years in that particular industry, in a non low cost country at that. As a rule of thumb we said 20-15% or less of the profit, depending of the amount of manual labor on the boards, was from the manufacturing process. Even with manufacturing in developing countries, you don't get that much higher profitmargins. Although very very very high volume does help a lot, when you accumulate the profit:-)

    2. Re:Profit margin? by starman97 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A big part of the cost is hazardous waste disposal.
      In the US you have to deal with all the lead and chemicals used in PCB manufacturing, in China, they basically flush it down the drain.

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  2. You don't need their phone number - just use any by marat · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If you ever been to Taiwan you'd know most girls there look absolutely great (it's not only me noticing this). I don't know how did they achieve it.

  3. Education required for designing these plants? by Radiate · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was really facinated by the article and I'm curious as to what kind of education is required for designing these manufacturing plants?

    Not that I'm an overoptimistic daydreamer but just curious..

  4. Awesome by ksilebo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not to sound like an ingrate, because this is really cool, but I'd love to see a video tour of this. Growing up in the 80's I have fond memories of randomly catching Mr. Roger's Neighborhood and watching him tour some factory. I'd like to see that in the factories today.

  5. how much labour goes into each board by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The amount of labour that goes into a board depends entirely on the relative cost of labour and machinery.

    For a long time, we have been able to build completely automated board facilities. Since the seventies, we have been able to build and test boards completely untouched by human hands. Automation is really expensive so even in North America such facilities are rare.

    1. Re:how much labour goes into each board by rcs1000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, you need to add (at least) component sourcing as well. Lets assume that the finished mobo is sold for $80 to Dell or whoever. This has to cover:

      (1) The Intel (or nVidia, etc.) chipset - c $40
      (2) Various other components from Murata, Rohm, etc. - $10
      (3) Labour
      (4) Land, rent
      (5) Manufacturing equipment
      (6) Employees used to make the mobo
      (7) Employees in R&D
      (8) Employees in sales and marketing
      (9) Management
      (10) Taxes
      (11) Random other overheads (telecoms, bandwidth, auditing fees)
      (12) Transportation of the finished product to the US, or wherever
      and, finally,
      (13) Profit

      Automation doesn't help that much. The cost of the employees actually making the mobo is tiny. Depreciation of components, or even shipping, are probably bigger expenses.

      Little wonder that motheboard manufacturers make so little money. This a super-competitive industry. And we - as consumers - benefit mightily.

      Cheers,

      Robert

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  6. Testing by netrage_is_bad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I find it interesting how much time they put into testing each motherboard. It looks like they spend more time testing it than assembling it.

  7. Taiwan MOBO vs China MOBO by GomezAdams · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I had to start checking when buying parts or finished computers where the MB was manufactured. The China boards had a big failure rate before the equipment was rotated out but the Taiwan boards had a nearly 100% chance of being working and in shape to sell or donate at the end of the cycle. Things may have changed since I was involved at that level but you couldn't give me a mother board (or power supply) made in China

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  8. Live Facility Tour? by drwhitt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Very interesting process... Anyone know of any facilities that host public tours? In the US? In Europe? Etc.?

  9. Re:Yawn..... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    what is so special about the whole setup? Motherboards have been around for more than 20 years.

    True, but what's up with the blue boards? They've been green for 20+ years, and yet in the past couple of years they've all been coming out blue. Are they using different materials of some sort, or is it just stylistic?

  10. Re:Yawn..... by Matt_Bennett · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In general, board color doesn't make any difference- the color comes from the solder mask- you can use any color you want. Where I work the color of the solder mask tells you what revision the board is- red boards are the first iteration, usually pretty buggy, lots of reworks. It freaked me out at first when I saw all the red motherboards at Fry's- my first reaction was ACK!-- stay away!

  11. Last one out please turn off the light.... by FLOOBYDUST · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Missing from the article


    1. Local regulations concerning emissions and chemical handling


    2. State/ Federal regulations


    3. Local colleges/ school providing trained labor


    4. Managers who know how to manage and make good decisions.


    This article could have been written in the late 70's early 80's about any of the hi tech businesses that used to dot the Silicon Valley or Route 128 belt .This looked like the DECs, Teradynes, Western Electric/ LUcent/ATT , Wangs and Prime Computers of the 70s and 80s Circa 1983 I attended an auction preview at a Data General board fab plant. Similar equipment and processes, but DG was dying as was all the other electronic manufacturing capability. Today the same decline is seen in the design part of the business. .


    The once vibrant pc board business in New England is as dead as the textile business. Once again the US is facing the results of not investing in the manufacturing base of basic industries. AS the manufacturing base declines so does the support industries and eventually the design jobs.


    Engineering as a profession is not as attractive as it was 30 years ago. A recent Wall Street Journal article ( no link) told how today's senior hi-tech executives can't get their own children interested in enrolling in engineering school. So what is the point of this rant? If you are in the engineering profession today your chances of employment are average to good; there is no one coming up behind you but you better stay up to date . For those thinking of entering the profession; You had better love it and get a minimum of a masters degree in your chosen field of study and whatever you do avoid manufacturing and industrial engineering. There are no factories left. They are all gone.
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  12. Re:MB most complex part? by halldav3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The most complex? Not even close. The disc drive is way more complex. The hard drive has a mini motherboard of its own, complete with processor, flash memory, dram (or ROM), high speed data channel, motor controller, etc. Oh, and did I mention the there are spinning discs in there with read/write heads moving a few nanometers above the surface?

  13. You are clueless, Sir by Donny+Smith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What the fuck are you blathering about?

    Mobos lose money because margins are pathetic (and they're pathetic because of too much competition). And price competition is fierce not only in mobos but in virtually all components and parts that go into one (resistors, PCBs, capacitors, on-board chips, etc.). Even chipsets don't make money (at least in case of VIA - just look at their less-than-stellar results).
    Because of all that, mobo manufacturers are extremely cost conscious.
    For same reasons, there are almost no mobo factories left in Taiwan - they've all moved to China or (a few) to SE Asia. There's no way a company can afford to make mobos (at profit) in Taiwan. (I bet the factory in that article won't survive beyond 2005. In fact I was very much surprised to hear that there actually is a mobo factory in Taiwan that is still in use.)