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Texas Considers Putting RFID Tags in All Cars

An anonymous reader submits "In section 601.507 of Texas HB 2893, the Texas Legislature is considering replacing all vehicle inspection stickers with RFID tags. The legislation also makes provision for the government to use the devices for insurance enforcement. The bill contains limited privacy provisions, but does not seem to exclude other law enforcement usage."

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  1. Re:Remember... by daveschroeder · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    No, he'll say the state already is illegally forcing people into "camps" (e.g. Guantanamo). And they're doing it secretly and without oversight. And he'll say that he can't save any outrage for when someone proposes his scheme, because, of course, the government will also implement that secretly and without oversight. And possibly, for good measure, that this is just all part of the great march (executed by neocons, of course) to erode our privacies, or get us used to privacy-invading technology, so that the government can control us a la 1984.

  2. Re:A few points that need clarification: by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    While there isn't such a thing as a right to drive, there are property rights. You have the right to use your own property in what ever way you want to. This includes driving your car. Also since roads are public property, they belong to the public and as such the public have the right to use them. Of course you don't have the right to hurt people or put them in danger, even if you are using your own property.
    Property rights means "the guy who owns the land makes the rules how his land is to be used". When you drive your property onto **PUBLIC ROADS** the public authority has the right and the duty to make rules on how you drive your junkheap on wheels.
    So, if you can't read between the lines, it means "NO, DOMEHEAD, YOU CAN'T USE THAT THING THE WAY YOU WANT IT WHILE YOU'RE ON MY PROPERTY".
    Why does using public roads mean you have no privacy?
    Because they are (drum roll) PUBLIC!!!
    You pay for the roads, why does them being public mean your rights don't apply anymore? If you are in a courthouse, can some of your rights be ignored because you are on public property?
    What rights are being ignored? Your privacy rights? YOU CAN'T HAVE PRIVACY WHILE IN PUBLIC!!! So, people will expect that, while in public, you behave properly, which means that you don't run red lights, fuck your mother or give a blowjob to your boyfriend.
    Speeding isn't bad. It is a collision that is dangerous.
    Speeding make collisions more likely and dangerous. Human reaction time means that less time will be available to avoid a collision, and energy being proportional to the square of the speed means that more energy will be available to wreak havoc during a collision.
    So, yes, speeding is *** DOUBLE PLUS UNGOOD *** because it makes more damage.
    No one has ever died from speeding; it is just hitting things with a car that kills. While speeding can be dangerous, it isn't always. There are times it is perfectly safe to speed, yet the police seem to think it is the perfect time to pull you over. If you think the police don't like giving out speeding tickets, you have never driven though Racine, WI (especially with Illinois plates). It is a bad idea to give up privacy rights in exchange for pulling over a few more of those evil speeders.
    So? The police are just darwinizing-out stupid drivers.
    It is pretty unethical for the government to force control over someone else's property.
    It's perfectly reasonable and legal and should be expected.
    License plates, this RFID thing, and black boxes are a complete violation of property rights.
    "Property rights" means that you cannot be deprived of it, nor of it's enjoyment.
    You wouldn't like it if you neighbor went around putting bumper stickers on your vehicles. In fact you could probably have him arrested if he did that.
    This is vandalism, and as such, it is a **TOTAL** violation of property rights.
    However when the government does it we seem to look away.
    You mean "licence plates"? The government can very well decide what to expect of people who are using **HIS** property, say, public roads.
    You run a swanky restaurant or a bar, and you have every right to force patrons to wear a coat and tie, just as the government has the right to say that you have to be licensed to drive on it's roads.
    Now, go to bed, you're just a little pup troll who's way pas his bed-wetting time.
  3. Sweet! I got a TROLL mod by multiOSfreak · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I rule.

  4. 5th Amendment Abuse by Bruha · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I may have the wrong number but I believe it's the 5th amendment that is supposed to protect you from self incrimination. Given I hate people that do not carry insurance but Rights are Rights. And before you pull that privelage crap if you give up one right for the privelage of driving what would be next. You cant carry a gun in your car if driving on a public street or something equally assinine.

  5. Re:Remember... by AstroDrabb · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    because "tracking" is not even the use of the system!
    Are you a troll? Or do you work for this "system"? Down here in central Florida (Orlando), we have had this system for a few years and it is called the "Sun Pass". The system is set up for tracking, period. When I go through a toll, if my balance is low, my credit card is automaticallly billed for more money so I don't run out of "toll money". Last week when I went through a toll, I noticed that the toll showed a "low battery" sign to me. Within two days, I had a letter from the toll "authority" that my battery was low and where I could go to get a new one.

    These systems are set up with monster databases that track "users" of the system. If you really think that you could be wanted by the FBI and have one of these toll devices and not get caught, your are either lying or are an idiot.

    --
    If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land,
    it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison
  6. Re:Many Houston Drivers Already have RFID by jonno317 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The tags could be easily abused to monitor speeding, but they are not.

    Abused? When you are driving on PUBLIC roads, you have no expectation of privacy from civilians or government. Further, driving on PUBLIC roads requires you to obey the LAWS the PUBLIC decided on. The public has demanded that when individuals decide to break speed limits, they are to be punished.

    Personally, I invite automated ticketing of those who violate the speed limit. Maybe that financial burden will finally convince people to drive at more uniform speeds, instead of the completely irresponsible (and unnecessary) speeding I see all over Dallas and Houston.

    If you speed and an officer does not see you, you are still speeding, and you still deserve a ticket.