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linuxbeta writes "A preview of WBEL4 (White Box Enterprise Linux) is currently available via BitTorrent. White Box nicely fills the niche between Fedora and RHEL. WBEL Sreenshots. WBEL FAQ. With this latest White Box Enterprise Linux release, is it time to walk away from RHEL?" Not if you want support from Red Hat, it's not.
Binary driver vendors only distribute binary drivers for certain kernel versions of certain distros, mostly redhat suse and mandrake. The nVidia drivers are an example, but they can also recompile for vanilla kernels, but what about say a binary driver compiled for the stock 2.4 kernel that comes with redhat 9 shrike? Will it work seamlessly with WBEL?
I'd imagine all kernels were recompiled, at least to remove the word 'redhat'. I know I could download RHES kernels from their installation floppies and use those... but is that required to run precompiled kernel modules?
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
Not if you want support from Red Hat, it's not.
That to me sums it up. The *only* reason i can think of to go with Red Hat is if you need the support. Other than that.. what are the benefits?
yet another linux distribution
imagine if everyone collaborated on say 5 distributions, fixed the bugs, polished the GUI's instead of the thousands of distros that are more-or-less the same thing.
MS would of been toast years ago
all the time there are these clones of each other they just dilute the brand and waste valuable manpower, these distros dont add anything significant to the table, its as if Linux innovation has stalled and now people are just resorting to changing wallpaper and icons , sticking a different logo on it and call it YALD
focus is a word that needs to be kept in mind, MS has been so successful because its a known quantity, i cant imagine the nightmares support/service companies will have in the future trying to support all these variations,
thats why Red Hat/Suse are successful
because they have a plan and are sticking to it, companies love consistancy and YALD is the complete opposite
I went to the WBEL website, got re-directed to Whiteboxlinux.net and this is what I saw:q id=19
I've been actively involved in the CentOS community for the past several months. As most of you know I've become disinterested in WBEL. CentOS is nearly the same as WBEL with a few minor exceptions: updates occur in a timely fashion (usually 24 hours), the developers are accessible (even if via IRC), and there is an active community (again in IRC atm).
CentOS has launched a new dedicated site at http://www.centos.org
I have prepared a migration page for moving from wbel to CentOS. http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?fa
I am confused now. Who's who?
i know someone is going to mod this as flamebait, then so be it. but it doesn't take away the fact that os design on linux (as well as longhorn and to an extan mac os) has been going backwards.
To make up for a lack of design, these OS designers have been adding more and more bars to the screen, in essence creating a lot of clutter. The top of the screen has an applications drop down list, quick launch toolbar, and date/time. the bottom of the screen has another button in the bottom left hand corner, a window selection bar, and a desktop selection bar. that's not it, then we have a menu bar that also stretches horizontally across the screen.
3 horizontal bars for 1 application. THAT is poor design. THAT is just adding more and more because no one is going to the trouble of doing a little research into designing something superior.
and please, don't give me the whole arguement about how the user can remove bars and whatnot. this is just a mask for poor design and complaining about changing from the default doesn't fix these problems.
oh, and for the other people who are going to say "why don't you do something about it". I think I will after I take my MCATs in a couple weeks.
...but it must be able to support my PC games. Why can't the community get togeather and create an open API like Microsofts Direct-X? Why not call the Linux version "Open-X" and start writing/porting games for this. Hell, if it becomes popular enough, then all W32 users have to do is download and install said "Open X".
PC hardware is based on a defacto standard and is interchangeable for the most part. An OS should also be the same. I would say Linux is that OS. But it really needs support from the entertainment gaming industry to push is public support to the masses.
Life is not for the lazy.
RHEL have recommended CentOS in the mailing list if you need an enterpise system and you or your company can't afford $345 a year. I guess that says alot about it. Some red hat engineers have even helped the CentOS project out.
Regards,
Steve
"You fail to understand the Tao. Go away."
Enterprise systems need to meet a certain criteria. Not many distributions meet this criteria except for Red Hat and Novell. This is based off of the common criteria I've seen set forth by most Fortune 500 companies. In the end it is really up to the admin but Ubuntu is not enterprise ready, nor are a slew of others. Debian used to be and still might meet the criteria, but in all honesty their stable version is getting too far behind and with the recent political issues in the project, its future is too uncertain for a business. I tested debian testing and unstable about 3 months ago because alot claim that those are good enough and are stable, I set up a cron job to install all updates daily (I have a similar set up on red hat) and within a month and one week both debian installations broke more then once (even if it was minor a few times, it wasn't acceptable). Don't get me wrong, other distros are nice for small businesses and home use, but certainly not enterprise.
Regards,
Steve
I did'nt find a list over what versions of KDE, GNOME, etc it includes. where do i find it? And have anyone here tested this distro, what are the pros and cons compared to Suse or Mandrake for example?
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Okay, someone please help me out here. Why would I choose WBEL/CentOS over Fedora Core? How do they relate, say, to Fedora Core 3, which has very similar specs (kernel version, Gnome version, etc).
And if there's a good reason to choose them over Fedora, should I look at WBEL or CentOS? I'm very confused by the conflicting statements on this site and those on this site. To my reading, the second site is trying to make it sound like WBEL is dead, and the CentOS FAQ "confirms" it, but that doesn't jive at all with the "official" WBEL site.
I don't know what kind of crack I was on, but I suspect it was decaf.
Will Redhat persecute SBL now?
Here's the scoop: Redhat hates CentOS because their salesmen keep telling them "we are getting caned in large data centres - they think we are expensive and are all grabbing CentOS instead." True conversation from the inside.
Redhats response: be like Microsoft. Try to crush the competition by using lawyers. Redhat is threatening CentOS by saying that they cannot even mention 'Redhat' on the site. Not only is this a deliberately bad reading of trademark law (fair use, comparative advertising yada yada.) but its pointless; everyone knows about RHEL clones. This article and the comments will point people to WBL & CentOS.
Redhat: you should start trying to compete rather than abuse the letter of the law and the spirit of Free software. Stop being a bully.
-he who laughs last, is a bit slow.
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Its not about needing an enterprise system. If you want to use RedHat's more stable product offerings then you have to pay. While Fedora Core is a nice operating system it is referred to as a "Test Bed" by RedHat. "Test Bed" operating system and "Production Environment" don't go toghether in my mind. With the end of RH 9 there isn't a freely available OS from RH anymore. You have to pay. So if you are familiar with and or like RedHat you have to compile from source if you don't want to pay. This is especially interesting when you have software that only runs on one of the commercial operating systems and you have been using RH for years as it was one of the supported OSes. $345 / year * 10 boxes. That is not an insignificant cost. Across 5 years that is ~$20,000.
Jeremy
I like the idea of two directories being physically different places and you can drag files from 'here' to 'there'.
You mean like you can do with a single window and a dir tree to one side? (Genuine question, I've not used Nautilus at all in years)
It's official. Most of you are morons.